[3.17] Forbidden rite str stack Occultist, 8k hp, 4mil dps, my league starter (HC viable)

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ISeiShirouI wrote:

Do u think u can sacale further the damage in a late version ? If so, how?

Nice build!!!!!!

frenzy charges of rings, cast speed rolls on rings, proj speed on gloves, nearby enemies -9 chaos res on helmet, resistances somewhere so you can fit in zelotry, medium cluster jewels (if you get level 94-98)
But we are talking multiple ex per upgrade, with a dmg increase of like 5% per upgrade.

Maybe the only thing worth considering is being res cap without losing dps, so you can fit in zelotry at 16& more dmg.
But zelotry is never worth if you need to cut other mods to get res. 16% more dmg per 50% mana reservation is really bad.
So, not really worth, you also lose immunity to ailments

Vanguar, it never worked that way. Mana cost is different from mana reservation.

IMPLEMENTED MY ATLAS SKILL TREES IDEAS

What do you think about single target damage? Possible to swap in pinpoint support for single target focus?

Nope, pinpoint is a loss of single target dmg. The single target proj hit is capped at 5 (look wiki).
You can get max +4 proj, 2 from volly, 1 helmet ench, 1 from flask (the flask is "only" +20%dmg increase, and not 40 as pob says).

Also pinpoint does less dmg then all the blue gems.

Also, i updated the pob 2 days ago, you may have the wrong pob.

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Snolaz wrote:

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ISeiShirouI wrote:

Do u think u can sacale further the damage in a late version ? If so, how?

Nice build!!!!!!

frenzy charges of rings, cast speed rolls on rings, proj speed on gloves, nearby enemies -9 chaos res on helmet, resistances somewhere so you can fit in zelotry, medium cluster jewels (if you get level 94-98)
But we are talking multiple ex per upgrade, with a dmg increase of like 5% per upgrade.

Maybe the only thing worth considering is being res cap without losing dps, so you can fit in zelotry at 16& more dmg.
But zelotry is never worth if you need to cut other mods to get res. 16% more dmg per 50% mana reservation is really bad.
So, not really worth, you also lose immunity to ailments

Vanguar, it never worked that way. Mana cost is different from mana reservation.

IMPLEMENTED MY ATLAS SKILL TREES IDEAS

The blessing support make it so instead of reserving mana, the aura cost mana to cast, and it last for like 10sec. That's why if they didn't change the no mana cost focus mod to only apply to non-aura skills it would have allowed a 'free' extra aura to any build that had some sockets available with the aura + blessing + no mana cost focus thing. I guess now it is only usefull if you have a decent mana pool to cast 10-15% mana auras or for archmage builds. For builds like yours it's not that interesting anymore with all the downside of sockets + high maintenance.
And to scale your build further than the last pob you could either go power charge stacking like last league (Tripolar Bear made a very nice guide on youtube) or go full str stack with replica alberon and switch to cyclone if you want to invest massive amount of currency. But the last pob should let you clear everything in the game without any struggle. Anyway I really like your build because it is a good "league starter" (even if we start as cold skills) and let you keep investing tons of money in different ways compared to a phys trapper. Thank you for the guide, can't wait to try it out tommorow ! Good luck to everyone on this journey, may you drop a mirror in your first acts :D

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The blessing support make it so instead of reserving mana, the aura cost mana to cast, and it last for like 10sec. That's why if they didn't change the no mana cost focus mod to only apply to non-aura skills it would have allowed a 'free' extra aura to any build that had some sockets available with the aura + blessing + no mana cost focus thing. I guess now it is only usefull if you have a decent mana pool to cast 10-15% mana auras or for archmage builds. For builds like yours it's not that interesting anymore with all the downside of sockets + high maintenance.

True!

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And to scale your build further than the last pob you could either go power charge stacking like last league (Tripolar Bear made a very nice guide on youtube) or go full str stack with replica alberon and switch to cyclone if you want to invest massive amount of currency. But the last pob should let you clear everything in the game without any struggle. Anyway I really like your build because it is a good "league starter" (even if we start as cold skills) and let you keep investing tons of money in different ways compared to a phys trapper. Thank you for the guide, can't wait to try it out tommorow ! Good luck to everyone on this journey, may you drop a mirror in your first acts :D

But with power charges i would need to go crit multi and there's really no space if you go str stack, at least that's what i calculated. Aren't frenzy charges just better if i want to invest in charges?

I get what you are saying but going power charges means changing the build and the skill tree completely...

I'm glad you liked the build! Good luck!

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Snolaz wrote:

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The blessing support make it so instead of reserving mana, the aura cost mana to cast, and it last for like 10sec. That's why if they didn't change the no mana cost focus mod to only apply to non-aura skills it would have allowed a 'free' extra aura to any build that had some sockets available with the aura + blessing + no mana cost focus thing. I guess now it is only usefull if you have a decent mana pool to cast 10-15% mana auras or for archmage builds. For builds like yours it's not that interesting anymore with all the downside of sockets + high maintenance.

True!

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And to scale your build further than the last pob you could either go power charge stacking like last league (Tripolar Bear made a very nice guide on youtube) or go full str stack with replica alberon and switch to cyclone if you want to invest massive amount of currency. But the last pob should let you clear everything in the game without any struggle. Anyway I really like your build because it is a good "league starter" (even if we start as cold skills) and let you keep investing tons of money in different ways compared to a phys trapper. Thank you for the guide, can't wait to try it out tommorow ! Good luck to everyone on this journey, may you drop a mirror in your first acts :D

But with power charges i would need to go crit multi and there's really no space if you go str stack, at least that's what i calculated. Aren't frenzy charges just better if i want to invest in charges?

I'm glad you liked the build! Good luck!

Yes the build i'm talking about completly stop the str stacking aspect because it is a bit more limited for spells once you reach a high level of investment in my opinion. I don't know if we are allowed to post other links but i'm referring to this one : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLVVUZQysKU. It's more about power charge and other things. For referrence it's in the 100-150ex buget(last league) range so you have some farming to do before you switch from str stacking to this. But for people like me that like to keep 1 character and invest a lot into it it's a good way to go beyond. And if you want to keep the str stacking IMO the forbidden rite aspect reach a certain limit too and if you want to go beyong, STR stacking + cyclone is the way to go. But for occultist your str stacking forbidden rite is the best to league start for the power you can get for a few chaos / 1-2ex and let's you transition into heavier scaling builds later so you don't have to level another character

Hi Snolaz, i love your build and i will be playing it tomorrow.

I have one question, does the effectiveness of added damage affect the "Deals 12% of your maximum Life as base Chaos Damage"?

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Yes the build i'm talking about completly stop the str stacking aspect because it is a bit more limited for spells once you reach a high level of investment in my opinion. I don't know if we are allowed to post other links but i'm referring to this one : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLVVUZQysKU. It's more about power charge and other things. For referrence it's in the 100-150ex buget(last league) range so you have some farming to do before you switch from str stacking to this. But for people like me that like to keep 1 character and invest a lot into it it's a good way to go beyond. And if you want to keep the str stacking IMO the forbidden rite aspect reach a certain limit too and if you want to go beyong, STR stacking + cyclone is the way to go. But for occultist your str stacking forbidden rite is the best to league start for the power you can get for a few chaos / 1-2ex and let's you transition into heavier scaling builds later so you don't have to level another character

I looked at the pob, interesting mechanics but very, very expensive.
If i had all that time and money and knowledge i'd probably still play other builds, kinda like mathil does, there are still alot of gems i want to try. But if you want to spend 150ex that seems a good way to do it!

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Hi Snolaz, i love your build and i will be playing it tomorrow.

I have one question, does the effectiveness of added damage affect the "Deals 12% of your maximum Life as base Chaos Damage"?

Nice!
No it doesn't, added damage is the damage added after the base, the life scaling adds directly base damage. (in other words has effectiveness of added dmg = 100%)
It's still 960 flat chaos dmg added. Huge base number that works well with %spell damage from str stacking

Love the look of this build, and will be league starting with it today.
Just wandering if there is any possibility to get 100% spell suppression in this build, as I know that is a very strong defensive layer, and seemed a bit op last league.

Nope, but we have max res.

Anyway, if someone is starting rogue exiles like me, don't forget to take the vaal side area nodes because that's an extra area that can spawn rogue exiles, affectively doubling your rogue exiles if you find one!

Looks super Fun!

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