[3.25] Holy Flame Totem Scion -- League Starter -- HC / SSF viable

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AnimePillowCollector wrote:

So, they changed Scion's Chieftain node to no longer even have taunting for totems. Problem is, I can't see any other node in any part of the ascendancy that is any better... do you still go Chieftain anyway? It seems all you're getting is the Covered in Ash from it. Other possibilities are warden for 20% spell suppression, but most of that node is wasted, or maybe Jugg for the immunities and the endurance charges.

Basically we get 20% more damage and 20% movement speed slow from "covered in ash", and the minor perks of ignite immunity and strength % increase, which also grants a bit of life. I did try to see other ascendancies, the best options are occultist for the extra curse and deadeye for mark effect (using sniper's mark) and tailwind, results in dps are similar, but without these minor advantages. So I still prefer chieftain. Jugg is a possibility, but we can get endurance from body armour implicit, and stun immunity from pantheon (which also prevents chill/freeze).

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Owedyou wrote:

Have you maybe any video which shows gameplay with this build ?

Sorry, I don't, I'm not a streamer. I'll try to look into doing some later this league. It's very similar to any other totem gameplay tho, I suggest Tatiantel2's stream for some totem gameplay.

Okay thanks I'll just go with chieftain.

It says in the guide that it has good regen, I am level 70 now with almost no regen except vitality, what am I missing?

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nick_carlsson wrote:

It says in the guide that it has good regen, I am level 70 now with almost no regen except vitality, what am I missing?

I'm deeply sorry, that used to be the case when our totems had leech, we now rely only on vitality. Sorry, my mistake, I'll update =/

Hope build is doing well despite of that, if you got more questions feel free to ask.

It's okay, but I play hardcore SSF and I am not very experienced so now in Maps that missing life leech will eventually be my doom :) Found a shield with life leech from totems that mitigates it somewhat. Any other advice?

I was actually also wondering about arcanist brand, I never used it before. How do you use it and what do you link it with?

I managed to reach lvl 100 SSF in settlers league with your build. It got a lot stronger once I got the shaper shield/4 totems. It was strong against stationary bosses/single target once you get the brand/flamewall up. Mobile ones can take quite some time because you may have to move your totems/brand around. All voidstones pretty easy once you get strong enough. Deathless exarch/eater/maven not too bad at this point. Uber Elder is tricky though. I give up on farming t17s however. Too annoying.

I don't think it would be too hard to get 38 challenges either with this if you focus on them, but I'm done with the league.




Had to give up on the spell suppression mastery because I couldn't find good armor/eva equips.

Anyway to push the DPS on this to be at least 8 million DPS? I hate to sacrifice alot of defenses for it but I can't see myself doing UBERS or T17 maps with this unless I can hit at least 8 million DPS.

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kado2999 wrote:

Anyway to push the DPS on this to be at least 8 million DPS? I hate to sacrifice alot of defenses for it but I can't see myself doing UBERS or T17 maps with this unless I can hit at least 8 million DPS.

I think it's possible, specially with good trade endgame gear. I'm working on updating this build guide, and intend to add a higher end setup to it too, but I still didn't find the time to finish it, and want to do that before I share.

Hi folks!

I updated the build, new POB can be found in opening post.

- added loadouts to it, so now it's easier to cycle through modes.
- added a leveling sample with a loadout for each act in campaign, to help the leveling. (done in HC SSF)
- changed defensive layer to move away from determination, which is much weaker now, to use block instead. There are some implications on this, but I believe this is the better option right now.
- added, although still work-in-progress, a trade high-end loadout with mageblood and such, just in case anyone is looking for dealing more damage with this in SC Trade and want some ideas.
- added the "returning projectiles support" combo and explanation to the PoB.

I'm still lacking time to work more into this build, so I'm sorry for the slow updating cycle.

Going to give this a try in the Zizaran gauntlet! Will update with my results.

Edit: made it to act 7 before dying to a pack of white mobs. Gauntlet is extremely scary!