(3.16) NERFED DO NOT PLAY THIS Raider Archmage BF/BB [CHEAP, Tanky, HCSSF viable, (100m+ dps)

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poe forums :/

Damn, you say that build is 2-button, but actually it is a freaking piano... maybe until the very end game. I'm on the maps now and just can't get used to push all the flasks and actve skills along with a special BF/BB rotation :(

I know the gear sucks, 3.3k mana but it felt so easier with LT spam.

PS: but it looks good if I'm able to press everything right :)

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Ravelex wrote:

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Annihilat0r wrote:

Ty for build. Are you guys satisfied with it?

I chose this build because it was advertised as being tanky.
But it's the opposite, it does nice dmg and it's squishy lol. T1 ultimatums are mopping the floor with me (lvl 79). On surival ones you can feel it's missing AoE cuz more and more enraged mobs are chasing you, so that's a recipe for disaster.

And what I found after respeccing is that it has a fuckton of buttons and stuff to lookout for (fortify, arcane cloak, vaal grace, conductivity and haven't even touched vaal RF).

Should have started with a slamer as I intented initially. Shame cuz I like the zoomy feeling of the build.

I'll address this one by one.

You can buy glassblowers from Hargan with Whetstones and Whetstones with Armorers, you should have 20% qual flasks -very- early on any build.

Chemist's isn't a high weight roll, you can definitely get bad RNG but you should have enough alts after acts.

Mind Drinker is massive, literally one of the first things I bring up.

Replica mistwall isn't bis nor is it required. It's just a good item if you're on trade or do heist. Essence wurm isn't needed, you probably were not going into a proper spell casting loop/using cloak and sigil properly.

Your weapons aren't just "shit" they provide almost nothing for the build. Being you wanted to quote me, what about this did you not understand when it comes to breezing through maps with leveling gear?

"You will feel a bit weak on day 1 of the build, before you get a decent mana pool you won't have agnostic and your damage may feel lacking until you get a sceptre with over 100 mana. Once this build goes online end of day 1/ early day 2 you will crush content with ease, this point is typically when you're at around 5k to 6k mana.

It is also VERY important that you don't over-spam your blade fall on bosses and that you're letting your detonations go off with blade blast, as it can net in damage loss. As gear progresses this becomes irrelevant because you do crazy damage either way.

If you're playing this in HC like any build, be cautious while leveling. Your defenses won't be properly setup until you make the swap to AM. Be patient on day 1, play smartly and this build will carry you incredibly far."

You're welcome to shit on the build, but it has a proven track record after placing 4th in gauntlet and being competitive on the HCSSF ladder so it probably won't be that reasonable of a complaint if you're one of the few having issues.

That's not an inflated PoB lol, most of those rolls are incredibly non optimal it's to act as a base item guide. The build can be pushed much further, like here: https://pastebin.com/bYFL1r31 without even touching crit.

If you feel uncomfortable with the build i'd suggest rerolling, no point in playing something you aren't comfortable on.

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klepstryk wrote:

+1 to Ravelex post.

@ChemistHCSSF - appreciate your guide, it seems that while investing it will be powerfull build. But it is should be not advertised as league starter.
My luck is very bad, i did collect only 20c doing acts; now i've flushed everything into ring, regrets and minor upgrades - and with current shitty gear i am struggling in t1/t2;

How is it not a leaguestarter? It doesnt require any special thing to get going.


@ChemistHCSSF A big thank you for the build here and I hope you dont lose your mind with all the people that arent reading the first post, dont check PoB or only are used to lazy, no thinking builds.

Folks, this is absolutely league starter and budget viable.

I did exactly that. I'm still running far from optimized gear, and I'm not very far into the Atlas due to helping a guildmate for several hours today. However. I'm crushing maps, including full Ultimatums.

I've died 10 times, 9 of those were in the acts before I respec'd.

I leveled to 72 using lightning trap, then respec'd, I've been slowly upgrading each piece of gear.

My gear at the moment:

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imwolf21 wrote:

What are your thoughts on trinity / call of the brotherhood variants of the build?

not a fan

yeah, I have no trouble in early mapping. As soon as I switched to BF/BB in a 5-link everything in early maps just melts basically.
Never played BF/BB before, so this is pretty fun, thanks for the build.

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klepstryk wrote:

+1 to Ravelex post.

@ChemistHCSSF - appreciate your guide, it seems that while investing it will be powerfull build. But it is should be not advertised as league starter.
My luck is very bad, i did collect only 20c doing acts; now i've flushed everything into ring, regrets and minor upgrades - and with current shitty gear i am struggling in t1/t2;

You scuffed the build so incredibly hard. You went AM on a 4L, I said a million times not to do this unless you planned on going invasion exotic goods and had loads of experience doing so. You don't have arcane surge linked at all, let alone to arcane cloak. It is literally the most important setup on AM and I say that in the guide. You're also on a 3L bladefall and don't have a seething/bubbling flask idk how you can get an opinion on this build when you're not even playing it.

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konean wrote:

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klepstryk wrote:

+1 to Ravelex post.

@ChemistHCSSF - appreciate your guide, it seems that while investing it will be powerfull build. But it is should be not advertised as league starter.
My luck is very bad, i did collect only 20c doing acts; now i've flushed everything into ring, regrets and minor upgrades - and with current shitty gear i am struggling in t1/t2;

How is it not a leaguestarter? It doesnt require any special thing to get going.


@ChemistHCSSF A big thank you for the build here and I hope you dont lose your mind with all the people that arent reading the first post, dont check PoB or only are used to lazy, no thinking builds.

thanks glad you're enjoying it!