(3.16) NERFED DO NOT PLAY THIS Raider Archmage BF/BB [CHEAP, Tanky, HCSSF viable, (100m+ dps)

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lamA1337 wrote:

what kind of vendor recipe weapon do we use while levelin ?

You can use any bow + blue rustic sash + blacksmith stone to get a phys boost on your bow as soon as you have the ingredients (mostly to help with puncture on bosses).

Once you switch to lightning trap, then use a magic wand, an alt, and one of:

white topaz ring (level 8-13)
blue topaz ring (level 14-19)
yellow topaz ring (level 20+)

To get a wand with flat lightning to spells. A couple of those and you'll be rolling. (Use the iron ring plus green gem recipe if you need a topaz)

In addition to the leveling advice in the OP, I'd think about trying to find space in your gear for Orb of Storms once you have lightning trap. Throwing the traps will trigger OoS for free damage if you're standing in the radius. A ranger can't buy this one normally, but since it's a breaking some eggs quest reward for a witch or shadow, you can get it from a mule pretty easily.

Pob dps assumes you're blasting almost 6 times per second, real number is close to 1-2 due to blade blast animation and having to actually move and cast blade fall before bb.

Considering the average hit is about 110k in your "midgame" setup, that's about 2-4 mil dps with 20 blade overlap (that's a generous overlap number imo).

Also sigil and arcane cloak make up almost half of this and they are not always on.

I feel like 30 mil real dps is out of question even with your practically unobtainable pob GG gear, but I am hoping that I missed certaing pob settings or something, I'm having a lot of trouble choosing a build for this league.

is there a version for softcore trade? i think the defenses are overkill in softcore?

Well its meant to be a tanky hcssf viable build, so ofcourse it has a lot of defenses.

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yabar wrote:

Can I run this build with other spell? e.g. ball lighting / arc
I would like to try raider archmage but bored bfbb already

You can. Though not taking advantage of the strength BFBB offers will make you weaker.

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Lidjohn wrote:

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ChemistHCSSF wrote:

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Lidjohn wrote:

Hey thanks for the build first
what do you think about the assassin version ? not better in therm of damage ? ( not the poison version )

Assassin is good at getting the most of your portal MTX.

In all seriousness I would never consider assassin over this iteration, if you mean physical assassin blade blast it is VERY bad.

Ok thanks for answer

what weapon are you aiming for leveling with lightning trap ? lot of spell damage / projectile damage i guess ?

wand recipe with added damage to spells

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Oilure wrote:

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ChemistHCSSF wrote:

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Oilure wrote:

Hey,

Does anyone have a reasonable PoB with gear?
Gear in the first post seems unachievable thanks to harvest nerf.

Also i can't find the Table of Contents information?

Was updating the guide, there's multiple gear selections within the poB. The mid game section is with easily obtainable gear a few days in.

Thanks works now.

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Lidjohn wrote:

Hey thanks for the build first
what do you think about the assassin version ? not better in therm of damage ? ( not the poison version )

Poison crit version might be better for softcore trade, can't really go crit with this raider MOM version.

This is incorrect, you can go crit. Also with further investment into damage you can push this build to 34m per 10 blades without ever touching crit

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SeqHawk wrote:

Do you have a sense for how far away from your generals you can be to still get the fortify effect from The Vigil? And is the time it takes to do a General's Cry affected by our faster cast speed?

I agree as you say that Desecrate-General's Cry is clunky, especially when we only get fortify for 8 seconds. I'm kicking around the idea of just doing the Vigilant Strike myself with either faster attacks and fortify support or ancestral call and fortify support to get over 18 seconds of fortify time from a single fast strike rather than just 8 seconds from 1-2 casts that may take more time. Granted, needing to be in melee range is a nontrivial cost, but you'll also get the option to spec into anomalous fortify for extra fortify effect down the road.

This is perfectly fine to do and actually my preference (Ancestral + fortify + fast attacks).

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jlo072 wrote:

Hi, never played bf/bb before and will go for this build. In cons section you write cannot do ele reflect maps. Is this the only mod or are other mods hurtful as well?

No regen is pretty tough, need a life flask. Phys is doable at the mid game mark but careful early.

cool build ;)

I'm playing around in PoB, I think dropping Mental Rapidity and Divine Judgement for Storm Weaver and two 2-points jewel sockets is better overall.

Thanks for making a guide for it, a lot of people have been messaging me about the build recently. Also I want to mention that the concept is not mine, I saw Terence playing the build on a Gauntlet practice league and I just yoinked it.