(3.16) NERFED DO NOT PLAY THIS Raider Archmage BF/BB [CHEAP, Tanky, HCSSF viable, (100m+ dps)

Not used to this forum so failed to comment on a specific message.

Regarding the piano play style.

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As for active buttons fortify, arcane cloak, and sigil of power are really the only other buttons you'll be using outside of bf/bb. It's pretty smooth.


To me this seems like bad news and might potentially break the build for me. I play SCSSF though so can hopefully get away with being squishy.

I'm horrible with multiple abilities (I'm not a very good player, period).
Typically all I can handle is one attack on mouse click.
Piano on three potions (and hope I get lucky when trying to smash them all to get a heal/mana that is outside those three).
Movement (dash etc) on space bar.
An instant on the move button.

Here we seem to have:
5 potions in piano.
2 key staged attack
3 utilities on demand
1 movement skill.

That is a lot of keys to handle for someone like me.

Not at all taking away from the build or anything. It just ended up being a lot more keys/skills/abilities to use than I first expected.

Still going with this build but will temper my expectations somewhat.
Last edited by Merrygrin#7333 on Apr 15, 2021, 8:21:58 AM
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1jame wrote:
yoo really detailed POB and guide overall.
have been wanting to play this build. thank you so much for the effort!


No problem!
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mrcello wrote:
very nice i was looking for this build, thanks man

do you think one could swap cremation in (i like it better, cast and forget type) for main skill? would it do enought damage?



Cremation can be used yes, it's not as good as BF/BB
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Lidjohn wrote:
Hey thanks for the build first
what do you think about the assassin version ? not better in therm of damage ? ( not the poison version )


Assassin is good at getting the most of your portal MTX.

In all seriousness I would never consider assassin over this iteration, if you mean physical assassin blade blast it is VERY bad.
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Oilure wrote:
Hey,

Does anyone have a reasonable PoB with gear?
Gear in the first post seems unachievable thanks to harvest nerf.

Also i can't find the Table of Contents information?


Was updating the guide, there's multiple gear selections within the poB. The mid game section is with easily obtainable gear a few days in.
Last edited by ChemistHCSSF#2067 on Apr 15, 2021, 8:41:40 AM
oops, wrong quote
Last edited by ChemistHCSSF#2067 on Apr 15, 2021, 8:43:10 AM
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Merrygrin wrote:
Not used to this forum so failed to comment on a specific message.

Regarding the piano play style.

"
As for active buttons fortify, arcane cloak, and sigil of power are really the only other buttons you'll be using outside of bf/bb. It's pretty smooth.


To me this seems like bad news and might potentially break the build for me. I play SCSSF though so can hopefully get away with being squishy.

I'm horrible with multiple abilities (I'm not a very good player, period).
Typically all I can handle is one attack on mouse click.
Piano on three potions (and hope I get lucky when trying to smash them all to get a heal/mana that is outside those three).
Movement (dash etc) on space bar.
An instant on the move button.

Here we seem to have:
5 potions in piano.
2 key staged attack
3 utilities on demand
1 movement skill.

That is a lot of keys to handle for someone like me.

Not at all taking away from the build or anything. It just ended up being a lot more keys/skills/abilities to use than I first expected.

Still going with this build but will temper my expectations somewhat.



There's definitely more to it than some other alternatives, I would say it's about a 6/10 in activeness
Nice build. Will probably run this on league start. Used your version as a base and made a tree for a Frenzy/Onslaught version with at least 6 Frenzies for the cast speed/movement speed/damage. Lost elemental immunity since I dropped Avatar of the Veil but gained almost another 40% MS. Have to use Wave of Conviction which is fine. I'll switch back to the immunity variant if I have trouble on bigboi bosses. Thanks for your time in writing this all out.
Last edited by genjiarmorxii#3233 on Apr 15, 2021, 8:56:28 AM
Can I run this build with other spell? e.g. ball lighting / arc
I would like to try raider archmage but bored bfbb already
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Zonktastic wrote:
I'll league start this in a small private league. I prefer CA/TR for leveling tho so i went with Aspect of Eagle/Lynx, Master Fletcher, Hunter's Gambit and Toxic Strikes for damage notes. We'll see how fast i can make the switch to archmage, depending on gear.


I've decided to go this route too. I might even do white maps with TR+CA before respecing if leveling time is good.

I feel like respecing would feel better the more mana and "important" nodes are taken and also there are bunch TR/CA damage nodes around our starting area ( Method to the Madness, Far Sight as addition to the mentioned ones)
Alt Art items as League MTX - When?

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