[3.21] Cold Conversion Summoner | Build guides for all budgets | (Ghazzy Zoomancer)

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Doritheexplorer17 wrote:

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Hi, I gave this build a go and so far I'm not very happy as far as league starters go but I'm sure that it is good with endgame gear. League mechanic sometimes shrekts me like if i had 1life and smile on my face.
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This is my budget for improvements.

Maybe it is like one poster said and fully switching to cold will help a lot with the slow effect. I have only 11 chromatics and no color recipes so as placeholder i use these
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to have little dps bonus on bosses they sell for super cheap and can recommended them untill you get 4greens on triad, did my uber lab minutes ago and took 10% pdmg reduction that actually seemed to help a lot when mapping but league mobs still just kill quicker than i can click potion.


with maxed GB we will still take 65% of damage 75% of time so it is not real solution, and ofcourse 25% of time full damage so at best you could say we die 1/4 of the time that we do without it. What we really need is pre-nerf aurabot to give us 5k es.

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Searching for a game of dota so I thought I would answer. Drop the Summon skeleton and put your Carrion in the helmet slot. Removed Minion speed and added cold from your chest setup. Add Critial strike support and vicous projectiles (just going based off your chest colors). Drop steel skin and place in vitality (try to get one that is leveled decently). You don't need minion +8 resistance mastery or minion +250 accuracy. Quickening convenant jewel at the top is not needed. Just get an abyss jewel with blind on hit. Far left of the tree don't go past redemption and righteous army and despec the two +16% nodes.

Thanks i will earn some chromatics tomorrow and change that up, it was on my schedule but i got real unlucky with colors this league.

when it comes to passive tree after refunding all that you say i do not need, would cluster jewel make sense? I could get life or minion stuff on it. I do not plan to take the glancing blows and rest of shield nodes because from my experience it does not do anything without %life on block influence shield.

edit: nevermind i'll just go for the % life circle next to scion.

Hey! Been running this build this league and it's been a bit mixed but hopefully it's because i've fucked something up.



I'm res capped with 4.3k hp and i still feel super squishy with flasks being up constantly. My damage feels very subpar as rare mobs in maps (t11+) take up to 15+ seconds to die and bosses even longer. I'm working on setting up a budget AG but any other advice would be greatly appreciated!

pob https://pastebin.com/5k1YsUp0

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CAKE wrote:

Hi, I gave this build a go and so far I'm not very happy as far as league starters go but I'm sure that it is good with endgame gear. League mechanic sometimes shrekts me like if i had 1life and smile on my face.

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This is my budget for improvements.

Maybe it is like one poster said and fully switching to cold will help a lot with the slow effect. I have only 11 chromatics and no color recipes so as placeholder i use these

to have little dps bonus on bosses they sell for super cheap and can recommended them untill you get 4greens on triad, did my uber lab minutes ago and took 10% pdmg reduction that actually seemed to help a lot when mapping but league mobs still just kill quicker than i can click potion.

with maxed GB we will still take 65% of damage 75% of time so it is not real solution, and ofcourse 25% of time full damage so at best you could say we die 1/4 of the time that we do without it. What we really need is pre-nerf aurabot to give us 5k es.

Thanks for listening to my podcast, tune in next week for more.

Pretty much what other people has said.
You're biggest issues is your sockets right now is your sockets and skillsetup. You're not running any active skills to buff your minions.
Instead you're running skeletons, no unset rings so you have very limited socket slots.

Since survivability seems to be a problem I would suggest you implement what I have implemented.
Get Glancing Blows and Bone Offering(Divergent if possible).
Also buy a Rumi's Concoction with a minimum of 11% block chance.
Keep Bone Offering up all the time and it will DRASTICALLY increase your survivability when mapping. Not running any defensive layer is simply extremely hard in red maps when we're in absolute trash gear.

You also want to make sure you're running Convocation and Frostbite curse.

I'm currently gonna try to get determination aswell on my character instead of vitality. Will have to look into how to fix the mana reserve though.

Which of our skill gems for spectre *really* need quality? Just hit lv20 on them and want to switch to Skin of the Lords, but dont wanna buy 120 GCPs lol.

Also: With Skin of the Lords and lv21 Spectre Gem, we can ditch Bones of Ullr, right? Since we hit lv25 on Raise Spectre and then have 4 max?

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Maaster wrote:

Which of our skill gems for spectre *really* need quality? Just hit lv20 on them and want to switch to Skin of the Lords, but dont wanna buy 120 GCPs lol.

Also: With Skin of the Lords and lv21 Spectre Gem, we can ditch Bones of Ullr, right? Since we hit lv25 on Raise Spectre and then have 4 max?

Whatever gems give us damage / CDR worth GCPing. Whatever gems give our minions MS / Minion Life are not worth GCPing. Skin of the Lords indeed allows us to get lvl25 of Spectre gem just from lvl25 gem, however I would not use Bones of Ullr even if I had to to get lvl25. MS is one of our most important sources of survivability and Bones are far from being good in this term.

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Maaster wrote:

Which of our skill gems for spectre *really* need quality? Just hit lv20 on them and want to switch to Skin of the Lords, but dont wanna buy 120 GCPs lol.

Also: With Skin of the Lords and lv21 Spectre Gem, we can ditch Bones of Ullr, right? Since we hit lv25 on Raise Spectre and then have 4 max?

Buy a 21/0 Raise Spectre.
Sell ALL your support gems on your spectre together with 1 GCP per spectre and you will get a 1/20 of all the gems.

Once you've gotten 5 1/20 gems, corrupt all of them and hope they all retain the 20% quality.

You could probably just buy cheap corrupted gems with 20% quality too if you find them.

Hey, I saw your Build on POB and found that u linked your chest like this: Spec + added cold dmg + hypothermia + Phanta + minion dmg + predator
But when I check your build recently build, u're using GMP + DMG ON FULL LIFE.
So should I switch ADDED COLD DMG to GMP for better clearing speed?
Btw, Idk what ppl think about this build in this league but since I got Triad in 4G, this build literally became broken with the support of Phanta. Thank u so much for that creative xD

Figured I would throw my 2 cents in with the changes, even though I'm on SSF standard (started the char a few weeks ago in Expedition) as my gear is basically garbage and budget.

I can do corrupted 16s with just a Clayshaper, Victarios and a +1 spectre chest thats crap (its offset by the fact my amulet doesn't have the anoint for +1 spectre yet, its too shit to waste a silver on) but I do die a bunch to things like Betrayal, the survivability isn't currently good. Damage is decent though especially considering 3 spectres. Current links are Spectre + Minion Damage + Predator + Increased Critical Damage + Summon Phantasm + GMP and it's working quite well.

Going to have to read back a few pages and see what Deadandlivin said about survivability, skimmed and saw a few things he mentioned about GB and Bone Offering. I will say I'm loving the hell out of the life regen we get from Vitality, just need to improve my survivability on big hits.

Based on the results from terrible gear I think this will honestly be just fine in the end once you get a few decent items. I think GGG is trying to really eliminate people being able to cruise through late reds with AWFUL stuff and this build definitely was capable of that before. It's still going to be good, just a bit harder to get going than before

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trung12368 wrote:

Hey, I saw your Build on POB and found that u linked your chest like this: Spec + added cold dmg + hypothermia + Phanta + minion dmg + predator
But when I check your build recently build, u're using GMP + DMG ON FULL LIFE.
So should I switch ADDED COLD DMG to GMP for better clearing speed?
Btw, Idk what ppl think about this build in this league but since I got Triad in 4G, this build literally became broken with the support of Phanta. Thank u so much for that creative xD

The colors are flexible. You can really run with whatever you get.
But I personally find that 4blue-2green is the BiS colors as it allows us to hardswap between clearspeed and single target.

By running 2 green we can use both GMP and Fork for clear and later swap them for Awakened Added cold and Awakened Cold Pen (Or Hypothermia depending on what's best for ST). This also allows us to use both awakened GMP and Awakened Fork later on.

I'm only using Dmg on Full life because I bought a chest with red colors and the chest is corrupted.

The chest you use can have 1 red socket max and then you use dmg on full life.
I only got it because I couldn't find any othr chest on day 1.