Development Manifesto: Harvest Crafting

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there have been some people (between the really loud pro- and anti-harvest change people....) that offered constructive criticism and there's just no sign that they are actually reading them. i mean... i want to believe they are and just won't say anything just yet, but the way the manifesto was written doesn't give me a lot of hope lol

in the long run, i think the harvest nerfs are mostly fine. they would have to rebalance the game around it if it stayed that way, making everything far too powerful and almost impossible to do for the average player without godly gear. i had fun with it and yeah i'm sad about it, but after thinking about it for a while, it was needed. the nerfs arent so bad that its completely useless anyways and is still very viable; just needs more effort put in (and yeah, a little more rng).

HOWEVER, i still wish they would make them tradeable because this doesn't solve the scamming problem at all. that's the one thing i'm just absolutely hoping they're considering, if they're reading any of this at all. making harvests tradeable isn't going to make it any more overpowered because people are already doing that through tft anyways, and the nerfs aren't going to stop it. i'm not sure why they can't make it like beast orbs, unless they're worried about bots taking it over or something, but... you have people running 6 accounts to farm beasts and feared rotas, so...

My solution for Harvest would be to rewire the craft costs, instead of life force it should be the corresponding orb it imitates.

That Way even those buying crafts will need way more currency to create perfect items and the remove 1 for 1 wont be used in bulk because annulment orbs are rare.

Harvest is too cheap for its own good,life force has no value outside of harvest so by making the player pay the Orb he wants to use as a harvest craft it increases the value of all currency items used in harvest crafting.

Chris Wrote: "Using currency items like Exalted Orbs or Chaos Orbs on your gear is a powerful, risky and exciting way to improve it. But because these items work equally well on both low- and high-level equipment, it's generally considered best to save them until you're crafting your end-game gear."

How is it you can be so out of touch with the highest percentage of your player base?

Oh, wait, you did post that the largest percentage of the player base will never get past mid-tier maps and that you were ok with that. So you are out of touch by choice.

Well, being one of the little guys (and according to you) I'll never get to endgame gear to use currency on. So your statement does not resonate with me and the largest percentage of your player base.

Also, because you don't pay attention to the little guy, please understand that we do not waste Exalted Orbs or Chaos Orbs on gear. You've got way too much crap in your RNG engine for us to use them like that. Most of us will only see 4-5 Exalted Orbs in any given league. We save them, not for spamming on end game gear. We will never see it and you are ok with that. We save them to give to insensitive traders that post things for sale, but may or may not respond to buyers. And Chaos Orbs? These are mainly used for trade or rerolling crap mods on maps.

WE DO NOT USE THESE CURRENCIES ON GEAR DUDE!

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Chyster wrote:

Chris Wrote: "Using currency items like Exalted Orbs or Chaos Orbs on your gear is a powerful, risky and exciting way to improve it. But because these items work equally well on both low- and high-level equipment, it's generally considered best to save them until you're crafting your end-game gear."

How is it you can be so out of touch with the highest percentage of your player base?

Oh, wait, you did post that the largest percentage of the player base will never get past mid-tier maps and that you were ok with that. So you are out of touch by choice.

Well, being one of the little guys (and according to you) I'll never get to endgame gear to use currency on. So your statement does not resonate with me and the largest percentage of your player base.

Also, because you don't pay attention to the little guy, please understand that we do not waste Exalted Orbs or Chaos Orbs on gear. You've got way too much crap in your RNG engine for us to use them like that. Most of us will only see 4-5 Exalted Orbs in any given league. We save them, not for spamming on end game gear. We will never see it and you are ok with that. We save them to give to insensitive traders that post things for sale, but may or may not respond to buyers. And Chaos Orbs? These are mainly used for trade or rerolling crap mods on maps.

WE DO NOT USE THESE CURRENCIES ON GEAR DUDE!

GGG confirmed that they are doing the game for 1%, I think that the conversation with them can be ended.

yay now us 1% players can keep getting richer and push into shrinking to the 0,05% of base. HEHEHE I pity the pleb. Give me your mirrors for the items I have harvest crafted and hoarded in standard.Thanks GGG making harvest legacy is the best !!!

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spokipo wrote:

GGG confirmed that they are doing the game for 1%, I think that the conversation with them can be ended.

Conversation you say....
I thought it needed two side for that, so far this looks more like a player monolog to me...

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Okkuro wrote:

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spokipo wrote:

GGG confirmed that they are doing the game for 1%, I think that the conversation with them can be ended.

Conversation you say....
I thought it needed two side for that, so far this looks more like a player monolog to me...

Figuratively =)

gg

What's really interesting, the fact that the only pinned thread on the development manifesto forum is (Improving communication - Please read first)

And I quote Chris on the following

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Communication is Important
At Grinding Gear Games, we've always treated communication with the community as a priority. I spend several hours of each day on external communication (that's not counting answering emails), but feel that we can still improve the way that we communicate with you guys. This article explains some of the ways that we're planning on improving communication in the short term:

The Development Manifesto
The purpose of this development manifesto forum is for us to open topics on specific issues that we're working on so that we can explain how they're going to work. It's also a great place to discuss specific design philosophies that we base many of our decisions around. Please note that there are still plenty of topics that will be posted! This initial set are just the ones that we have ready in the first pass. More will be added in the coming days/weeks.

Ofcourse we can not neglect the fact that neither communication being positive or negative have been answered in anyway, bottom line is, this wasn't a conversation, just another email with a no-reply.

To make it easier, each individual message on this thread wasn't valued at all,

Simplifying it more. Your opinion doesn't matter, and you don't deserve the respect to be answered.

Isn't that right, Chris?