Doryani's Touch Elementalist ignite - is it endgame viable ?

Hi all,

I wanted to try the new elementalist this league, but as I've not much time and currency, I went for Doryani's Fist + shaper of flames for some AoE ignite, then switched to Shaper of Storms and Stormfire ring.

Here is PoB link: https://pastebin.com/JeKpKPry

Damage is decent for ignite build with good Seismic Cry management (6M dps with emberwake), and defensive layers looked correct. So far I beat Sirus, Maven'd Shaper (not easy), and overall I feel good against all usual endgame stuff.

But. I got slaughtered in the Maven's: the Formed. I think both Minotaur and Chimera at once deal far too much physical damage for my build to endure.

So, do you think there is some way to face late endgame with this, or should I change to another, tankier ignite build ? (good news are I invested near no currency apart from cluster jewels so I can switch to any ignite build without issue)

Thanks for your held and advice !

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Beaten Maven, the Formed, the Twisted, the Hidden, not deathless though. Now that I start getting used to Shield Charge, movement is smoother in maps, but I'm sure there are still upgrades to find out.

Currently, DPS is over 6M, and total damage from ignites around 45M, with 8,5k ehp, fortify, max res (inc chaos) and ailments immunity, for a reasonable price.

Here is updated PoB: https://pastebin.com/QVpmDDxb

I hope someone finds some ways to improve this !

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PoitelMarto wrote:

But. I got slaughtered in the Maven's: the Formed. I think both Minotaur and Chimera at once deal far too much physical damage for my build to endure.

Hello! I have:
- Phys. Damage reduction: 90%
- no crits for my witch
- 61,000,000 total Damage per Ignite (Sirus)

https://pastebin.com/jap7Vi8n

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Florenta wrote:

Hello! I have:
- Phys. Damage reduction: 90%
- no crits for my witch
- 61,000,000 total Damage per Ignite (Sirus)

https://pastebin.com/jap7Vi8n

Hi !
I took a look at your PoB, it was quite interesting to compare both our builds. Your use of focus looks quite interesting, large increased duration instead of Emberwake is worth considering.
So far, how do you feel ? You indeed have much more phys reduction with Brass Dome and heavy invest into golem buffs, but your EHP looks really low. Did you manage to beat all Maven's things ?
Side note: how do you manage to have 4 endurance charges ?

I will possibly give a try to Brass Dome for more sockets as well. Thanks for sharing your ideas !

keeping an eye on this! I really want to use Doryani's I just could not find a guide so I was trying to wing it..sad to say my buddies asked me if I would go some other spec. This gives me hope!! Thank you!

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drdeath50501987 wrote:

keeping an eye on this! I really want to use Doryani's I just could not find a guide so I was trying to wing it..sad to say my buddies asked me if I would go some other spec. This gives me hope!! Thank you!

Hi !

I don't know what kind of player you are, but if you don't have tons of currency and plan to go endgame with an ignite build anyway, Doryani's Touch is really sweet early on. You can run T16 alched maps with 25-30c gear.
Not for Hardcore (at least for bad players like me) as the low atkspeed punishes bad slam timings, but I beat everything except Feared now that I'm getting used to it.

If you're interested I can detail a bit how I built this, but there's nothing mindblowing, really.

Thank you for the quick reply! I really want to play this build. I noticed after looking at the PoE tree that I was doing things way different. I do have to ask, Shaper of storms or flames not worth it? I was thinking of using a herald cluster also to get the 15 percent dmg per herald? with inpulas exploding chest maybe?

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drdeath50501987 wrote:

Thank you for the quick reply! I really want to play this build. I noticed after looking at the PoE tree that I was doing things way different. I do have to ask, Shaper of storms or flames not worth it? I was thinking of using a herald cluster also to get the 15 percent dmg per herald? with inpulas exploding chest maybe?

I'll try my best to answer you.
1) I did pick Shaper of Storms, which is a huge damage buff as it ensures our (relatively) low damage hits inflict a large base shock, which is in turn heavily scaled by Doryani's Touch, Unbound Ailments and Divergent Burning Damage.
Shaper of Flames isn't quite as much valuable here. It shines when either your hit fire damage is biggest, or if you have multiple non-fire damage sources, generally from damage conversion/added as; it could be interesting in another setup, using Atziri's Promise and Incandescent Heart among others, but I favored shock and using pure lightning damage with stormfire. I will theorycraft a Shaper of Flames version when I have time :)

2) I don't think it's worth it for two reasons. First, Herald of Thunder requires either dropping an aura, both being far better than herald, or hugely invest in mana reservation; and second, even if you do so, Fire Damage Multiplier clusters have way better notable skills.

3) Exploding chests aren't really strong in burn builds, as the corpses of ignited enemies continue to burn and spread ignite to nearby enemies with Ignite Proliferation/Fan the Flames. During Rituals, for example, after you slam a pack, all spawning enemies near the corpses will burn to death in a split second, and this, as long as your ignite duration.

https://pastebin.com/eLdzp6uK I found this on youtube today just figured I would drop it in for more brainstorming. He has a lot of ignite damage but does it ever get to a point where it's to much? The video has no edits so he dies a couple times. Looks fun just seems a little squish. Just looking at more ways to improve this build just trying to get more levels to make it work!!

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drdeath50501987 wrote:

https://pastebin.com/eLdzp6uK I found this on youtube today just figured I would drop it in for more brainstorming. He has a lot of ignite damage but does it ever get to a point where it's to much? The video has no edits so he dies a couple times. Looks fun just seems a little squish. Just looking at more ways to improve this build just trying to get more levels to make it work!!

This PoB looks very much like Florenta's one; either one inspired the other, or the second is just the same with better/more offensive gear.

Boosting both DPS and total ignite damage is never too much, but I feel this one is quite squishy, 4700 hp and no Primal Aegis (plus not immune to ele reflect) are not much when facing the Maven's challenges. Also, it does require a ton of setup, with Focus, Smite and good Confluence timing to hit the maximum damage.

It would be nice if you could post the link of the videos; I discarded Smite when I built my character as it seemed too unreliable to my eyes, but maybe I'm wrong.

All in all, this build can have even better damage with another cluster jewels set on the left, and more survivability with Doryani's Glorious Vanity, which comboes with the Fist; something like this:
https://pastebin.com/ML73XcC3

I still believe 5k eHP and no Bastion of Elements is a bit greedy, and I feel Emberwake fits nicely with the build as Ignite durations are super long, so you can easily stack two on bosses.

Thanks for sharing this PoB !