⛵☁️[3.25] The Arachnophobia Allstars| Chaos Guardian CI|The dirty Scorpion-tail|Herald of Agony 150M+

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baboen wrote:

Slight nerfs to the cluster jewels it seems..

Hey Baboen,

yes, stalwaart commander again.

The armour will decrease from 140000 buffed down to around 137000. That's no problem, our 90% physical damage reductions are high overcapped.

But when you get uncompromising on a fine megalamonic-unique-medium cluster with other nice defensive skills or with one more pure agony, change the medium cluster with stalwaart-commander out.

The Arachnophobia Allstars are remaining with around 595000 ehp fullgeared one of the most tanky set-ups on the tree I guess.

But we get trialed ultimative: our 1.4 mill effective hit pools, - 1400000 - , against physical damage, is kicked deep down to small dangerous 1360000 physical ehp and we loose full 60 es on block - now reaching 2740 instead 2800 es on block full geared. Hehe ;-)

I am interested in this build. In 3.13 I played Vatinas Spiders + HoP Guardian. It used similar gears like your build. It could tank everything except maven. But the damage did not feel satisfying and Legion encounters + delerium were simply disappointment.

How does Agony and arch do vs Legion and 100% delerium?

Ultimatum league mechanic seems like it will need both defense and damage. Which is why I am worried and looking for tank build + decent damage. But also not super expensive.

Hi Sazzbot,

yes, Vatinas build is amazing and the fundament in a lot of pieces of this build. I started with it too and enjoyed full. I changed to HoA because I love more the ball-lightnings, better defences and damage of this new build with different skills, keynotes and clusters.

And yes, the Arachnophobiatics do full deliriums (with or without Headhunter, both works). Legions are very good fitting because of piercing and splitting and large area of damage of the HoA. When you do them often you can switch in phantasms support, they synergize very well and oneshot legions often (take a look into "the dirty Scorpion tail" and "Harry Potter senior").

Delirium work great full geared or with hh. Defences are 600k ehp, perhaps unmatchable by other builds, and you can scale the damage from basic 4 mill up high to 9 mill. and more with loss of a bit qol. Take one modul out of the spoiler "gear" and choose of the level you want, your experiences with poe and your own style. The modules with only small changes fits to different goals in poe.

You find a lot of videos, of full deliriums with much lags and Maven's invitations at the top of the build "Videos".

For the last maven & the brain fight take 55-60 virulences of the offensive edition, 6-9 mill. damage, and balance more movement in, like frostblink and more. I do later a video about the fight, it's still hard when you are full geared.
The invitations and ue/ shaper and all other bosses are not difficult with this build. Only when you are hugging ueberatziri you have to know her attacks, she is dangerous with her aoe's.

A spoiler on page 25 tries to compare stats and styles of HoP and HoA- builds:

- HoA vs HoP -

Stats and styles of different
Heralds- and Managuardianbuilds :

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3019705/page/25

Starting gear is very cheap and fits up to level 97. To Max out helmet-enchant, flasks or Watcher's eye can get expensive (see spoiler "Beginning and Leaguestart" and spoiler "contra"), but they are not mandatory.

I will be trying this build this league after playing HOA Guardian for a league start since 3.10 or during the season switching to it. Excited to ditch the spectres and try the spiders. I was theorycrafting the other day how I could make HOA guard without spectres, so def going to look more into this! Cant wait

Thank you for explaining and extra info

Hello.
I'm planning to play this build as a starter.

The question i have is :

What should i use as the 6th link instead of Empower?
Because at the league start it won't be very accessible.

Thanks.

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Hey0cean wrote:

Hello.
I'm planning to play this build as a starter.

The question i have is :

What should i use as the 6th link instead of Empower?
Because at the league start it won't be very accessible.

Thanks.


Edit: Nvm , not starter viable :)

you can league start with this build....I have played this as a league starter, you just will have save up for the spider dagger and aegis shield isnt much by day 3 to 4. You can run zombies and specter's until you get the right items and dagger. You can use non corrupted skin of the loyal until you corrupt all ur gems and want to switch to loyal robe with iron reflexes.

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Hey0cean wrote:

Hello.
I'm planning to play this build as a starter.

The question i have is :

What should i use as the 6th link instead of Empower?
Because at the league start it won't be very accessible.

Thanks.


Edit: Nvm , not starter viable :)

Hey Ocean,

hehe, take maim support instead empower or added fire damage. Empower is too expensive at leaguestart. When you miss the dagger, take in summon phantasms as blue support directly in the HoA sety-up or spectres or skeletons in the cast when stunned setup to get the ascendancy buffs.

For every gearslot, skill and every stat you find a lot alternatives in the spoiler:
"Tipps for beginning, levelling, gearing and Leaguestart".

Most expensive at start will be the "circle of nostalgia", take instead discord artisan or one more uncompromising or self control, a lot other possibilities are shown in "manamanagement". Don't forget chance to poison for HoA/ chaos damage like on a jewel or lesser poison support. It's easy to work around.

Herald of Agony offers much damage at start not full geared, so I think HoA is one of the most easy leaguestarters and you will get into high red maps easy and fast.

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Chromino wrote:

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Hey0cean wrote:

Hello.
I'm planning to play this build as a starter.

The question i have is :

What should i use as the 6th link instead of Empower?
Because at the league start it won't be very accessible.

Thanks.


Edit: Nvm , not starter viable :)

Hey Ocean,

hehe, take maim support instead empower or added fire damage. Empower is too expensive at leaguestart. When you miss the dagger, take in summon phantasms as blue support directly in the HoA sety-up or spectres or skeletons in the cast when stunned setup to get the ascendancy buffs.

For every slot and every stat you find a lot alternatives in the spoiler:
"Tipps for beginning, levelling, gearing and Leaguestart".

Most expensive at start will be the "circle of nostalgia", take instead discord artisan or one more uncompromising, a lot other possibilities are shown in "manamanagement". Don't forget chance to poison for HoA/ chaos damage like on a jewel or lesser poison support. It's easy to work around.

Herald of Agony offers much damage at leaguestart not full geared, so I think HoA is one of the most easy leaguestarters and you will get into high red maps easy and fast.

Thank you very much for the detailed answer :)

Will try to start with it. Have a nice day <3

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Rodneyking wrote:

I will be trying this build this league after playing HOA Guardian for a league start since 3.10 or during the season switching to it. Excited to ditch the spectres and try the spiders. I was theorycrafting the other day how I could make HOA guard without spectres, so def going to look more into this! Cant wait

Hi Rodneyking,

the spiders offers a lot nice swarming screenaction and a lot of damageuptime while mapping. Blindings or knockbacks are interesting to with them.

Until reaching 60 virulences the spiders offer more damage and the 15 wither stacks debuffs are bis. But from 60 virulences on the old HoA-build is a bit better scaleable in damage, with less defences of course. You can change in also the added skilllevels or more damage with hatred to the Agonyca Allstars as in the older great build. Both are very strong and have ups and downs and are very interesting to compare, I tried to compare too on page 25 "HoA vs HoA, Stats and styles of different/ older Herald of Agony builds":

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3019705/page/25

I love both very much, hehe, and I am very interested in your opinion and experiences. I love the old build too, tried out and took a lot of tipps from that great build! You have to tell later and make tipps for improving further when you like!