[3.19] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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archwerewolf wrote:

well yeah. with such investment you can easy get meta build to wipe uber's :/ pity that our build are caped with how much we can get from it and not reach such insane dps

Yeah but isn't WI more fun to play?

Come to think of it, I'd love to see a graph of build dps versus investment cost, both around T16 (i.e., mid-endgame where you have several upgrades available) and endgame (where you are now min-maxing gear.)

For WI, the mid-endgame cost this league was around 4 ex for me (mostly for the two split jewels @ 1 ex each.) Your gear looks like it'd cost ~100 ex, a good chunk of which was probably spent on crafting.

What other builds do very well at the T16 level with a ~5 ex investment? And what off-meta ultra high dps and defense build would you have wanted to spend your 100 ex on instead?

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archwerewolf wrote:

Well...uber version sad time for us xD (cortex no, it's easy). Mb with 20k ES they not gona oneshot(eater lul), but meh.

Me not like that they introduced such mechanic for meta builds with ton's of dmg - like in gfl shows how smb killing normal sirus with 1-2 sec....i think they doing smth like that to uber eater/exarch
or ton's of def mechanics (like in simulacrum 30 w staying afk and not die)

Just watched how smb with hm 80m pob dps just annihilate uber eater/exarch...
We can only dream about such dmg lol

I completely disagree, WI is super strong, quite tanky and has room for error correction if you fuck up.

Uber Maven - Killed her with 1 death after going in blind.
Uber Shaper - kill him every time with 1-2 deaths, matter of practice.
Uber Cortex - killed him with 1 death after going in blind.
Uber Sirus - attempted twice but failed, last phase is super hard with degen.
Uber Uber Elder - completely doable, just requires practice and proper use of flasks.
Uber Exarch & Uber Eater are also doable, but the immunity phase is hard since we cant regen back up once we get hit.

This is THE best league to craft the endgame gear we dream of with recombinators:

well i didn't say we can't kill them (cortex just meh, it's not uber in comp with others xD)

but vs meta builds that kills them in 10 sec...

personally for me it's just not worth to go for uber uber versions

and yeah, i still like whispering ice and gona play it )
Hope that in PoE2 it gona exist

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archwerewolf wrote:

well i didn't say we can't kill them (cortex just meh, it's not uber in comp with others xD)

but vs meta builds that kills them in 10 sec...

personally for me it's just not worth to go for uber uber versions

and yeah, i still like whispering ice and gona play it )
Hope that in PoE2 it gona exist

Let me tell you something, I played a lot of meta builds and while the damage on some of them was stupid, they suck in other areas such as annoying gameplay and worst of all - they are not fun :)

Also if you want to min-max, for bosses since we dont cyclone at all, we might want to have "bossing boots" (increased int, flat int etc..)
You also don't follow most of the build and lose quite a lot of damage.

Also, why get ele prolif on gloves? it only helps you run conc effect on your clear staff and you dont really need damage for clear, esp with profane bloom.
You dont have unnerve on gloves because of that, which forces you to take master of fear on ur megalomaniac instead of a 6-10% more damage node.

Your amulet has int on it, but that forces you to get dex and str elsewhere, which forces you to lack resists, which forces you to get prismatic heart on your clusters instead of blanketed snow which is 15-20% more damage with both clusters.
All these things really add up :)
Remember every passive skill point in this build is priceless

too lazy to min-max and don't have so much currency xD

I'm a bit behind the top folks, but I'm checking out the new uber bosses now too.

They seem to be tuned in special ways to make sure that what the devs meant as a 1-shot is really a 1-shot (unlike the regular versions of them). But that's why I love Frostblink. It lets you dodge while casting.

The only real trouble for this build (especially the Occultist version) are the immunity phases when you can't leech. And there is often degen on the ground. But it's only a problem if you want to avoid dying. Otherwise you just die a couple of times to something like Uber Eater before killing it. Still, I like deathless boss kills, so I'm going to work on a safe strategy for each uber boss.

For now, I've mastered the Uber Shaper enough to showcase him.

New video: Uber Shaper

Very hard to run aspect of the spider without a purity of elements enchant.

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Firestrike9 wrote:

Very hard to run aspect of the spider without a purity of elements enchant.

It's one of the mana issues with the Occultist. I'm keeping Deep Thoughts with the mastery node for that reason (as well as regen).

How does this build get stun immunity before the awakened gem? Tolerance cluster + enchant doesn't add up to 100%, am i missing something or is it just not stun immune?

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GuiAzuma wrote:

How does this build get stun immunity before the awakened gem? Tolerance cluster + enchant doesn't add up to 100%, am i missing something or is it just not stun immune?

last 10% you can get from a corrupted brute force/fertile mind, they are a few c or you can craft on gloves.