[3.13] Aura Stacking Minions (20-30+ Mil DPS, ~87% resistances, Beginner Friendly, League Starter)
Okay I'm confused about how this is supposed to work now. I used similar setups before as league starter (mostly same gear/tree, but that was 2 years ago, and using good old elemental spectres like solar guards and undying incinerators). I must be doing something wrong because so far this seems far too weak in comparison. I just switched to full LL with most of the listed auras and 5L syndicate operatives - my gems are low level and I don't have cluster jewels yet, but I fail to see how the upgrades would bring the damage to a level needed to phase endgame bosses. I stumbled upon an elder guardian map from a low tier maven encounter and could barely put a dent in its HP :|
Are spectres really that much worse than skeletons now?
Last edited by Rivx#4632 on Jan 19, 2021, 11:06:29 AM
It's a hard no for me on spectres. Frost auto scouts might be okay if they didn't patch the bugged interaction with intensify, but I don't know if I'll have the time to re-write the guide with them in mind.
Hey! I just learned about a spectre: Artless Assassins
Do you think this build would work with them?
PoB shows some insane numbers, bud sadly i liquidated my build and can't test them
Last edited by Garulf161#3794 on Jan 18, 2021, 9:47:14 PM
could you please post all the "reduced mana reserved" sources, as PoB doesnt show how much exactly particular aura reserves, and besides passive points and shield i have no other reductions, which seems to be not enough?
It's a hard no for me on spectres. Frost auto scouts might be okay if they didn't patch the bugged interaction with intensify, but I don't know if I'll have the time to re-write the guide with them in mind.
Hey! I just learned about a spectre: Artless Assassins
Do you think this build would work with them?
PoB shows some insane numbers, bud sadly i liquidated my build and can't test them
Ok I bought again the gear on Standard to try them out. It's... interesting. It may have potential, but I need help with gem setup. PoB shows that the setup i did is the best, but I don't think it's working properly.
Here's the video with an Elder kill to test single target DPS, and a T15 map clearing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-HsYdDDra0
I didn't swap volley to ST because I want to test a lazy setup. What's interesting is that in Kay's video she absolutely melts minotaur as seen in here video here: https://youtu.be/ayP_r0Ra73U?t=258
So yeah there is potential, but it's kinda scuffed the way I did. Or it doesn't get much better and that's it.
Here is the PoB of this video: https://pastebin.com/Lbp7cuJ5
For some reason if I import your build and just make this setup, it nets a dps 3 to 4 times higher. Not sure why.
It's a hard no for me on spectres. Frost auto scouts might be okay if they didn't patch the bugged interaction with intensify, but I don't know if I'll have the time to re-write the guide with them in mind.
Hey! I just learned about a spectre: Artless Assassins
Do you think this build would work with them?
PoB shows some insane numbers, bud sadly i liquidated my build and can't test them
Ok I bought again the gear on Standard to try them out. It's... interesting. It may have potential, but I need help with gem setup. PoB shows that the setup i did is the best, but I don't think it's working properly.
Here's the video with an Elder kill to test single target DPS, and a T15 map clearing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-HsYdDDra0
I didn't swap volley to ST because I want to test a lazy setup. What's interesting is that in Kay's video she absolutely melts minotaur as seen in here video here: https://youtu.be/ayP_r0Ra73U?t=258
So yeah there is potential, but it's kinda scuffed the way I did. Or it doesn't get much better and that's it.
Here is the PoB of this video: https://pastebin.com/Lbp7cuJ5
For some reason if I import your build and just make this setup, it nets a dps 3 to 4 times higher. Not sure why.
Could you tell me how do you get 19% mana (life) reserved on haste and pride on your shield? I have all notes from passive tree, but im hitting only 21%.
Could you tell me how do you get 19% mana (life) reserved on haste and pride on your shield? I have all notes from passive tree, but im hitting only 21%.
Could you tell me how do you get 19% mana (life) reserved on haste and pride on your shield? I have all notes from passive tree, but im hitting only 21%.
Here is my PoB - https://pastebin.com/EkP37CC1
That PoB is broken. Doesn't show the passives
I already found the issue - the allocated passive from amulet, it provides additional mana reservation :)
Thanks for the build, its simple and super effective!
Okay I'm confused about how this is supposed to work now. I used similar setups before as league starter (mostly same gear/tree, but ...
guardian map from a low tier maven encounter and could barely put a dent in its HP :|
Are spectres really that much worse than skeletons now?
Sorry bro, I don't know what to tell you. Physical spectres for this build will be in a tough spot DPS wise because it relied on spectre's level scaling until aura effect came into play and boosted the impale numbers. Since that is gone, I don't know what to tell you.
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Thank you very much for the guide. Chose your build as my first Aura stacker :)
So spectres are completly dead? Or are they still worth it?
For me it's a no for now. Specially with the drop in tankiness of spectre in general. But our boy Garulf161 is working on an Artless assassin option, maybe he might be able to pull off something that you might like.
just wanted to say few things regarding the changes to the build. :D
Yes, the lower max. res is an unpleasant hit, especially in super end game, if you are trying to reach high lvls or playing HC. However, I think in this regard, it is important to note, that the reason why the build had to be this tanky in last t league was especially because of the absurd amounts of layered dmg in Heists. Considering this leagues is in maps, and maps, except for very high delirium are joke, I do not think you would even notice much difference most of the time. This applies for Ritual mechanic as well as for Maven arena, where you fight numbers of bosses.
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Anyway, sorry for the long post guys, these are my experiences with the build, and I hope that it will help some of you, that are undecided whether or not to play it.
Also big shoutout to @kkhode for the build and its various versions!
Thank you guys and have a fun league!
Thanks for the insights! I think your post probably reduced the barrage of questions regarding the build by a lot. So thanks for that!
Btw, what build did you league start with? I'm trying a phantasm skely mage build and damn it's fun. I just created a small build guide about that too.
