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Jancela wrote:
You can look at my current char Jan_is_Jan.

I'm wearing version 1.5 of my gear. Currently doing yellow maps and the very first level of reds.

Waiting for my garden to proc my socket colors and socket links to wear some slightly better life rolled gloves, boots, and shield. Waiting for Jun to bless our unveiling guild mate with +1 to zombies to craft it onto my helm.

Gearing for white maps was at most 5 chaos and version 2 gearing (for a bigger potential life pool for red tier) after some crafting at the bench and buying some oils was 50 chaos.

On the wishlist will be a nice 6Link w/ 5B+1R but haven't seen one I'm willing to buy when I've looked.

Random protip: save an alchemy - feed your map to the garden crafting. I've been raring all my maps this way.

Also maybe I've been lucky but Physical Reflect on yellow maps hasn't been killing off my zombies.

Edit: Garden proc'ed - wearing my new gear.
The Hatred version of this build didn't kill our zombies with elemental reflect either, did it Jancela. Awesome job running it anyway! Take that Physical Reflect!
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Jancela wrote:
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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:
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subliminaldelta wrote:
Starting to think Meat Shield is a liability...not a fan of needing to run directly into enemy frontlines for my zombies to kill anything, putting myself at massive risk.


I have been concerned about this as well but for what I am doing it is needed.

My shield charge into enemies does 3 things for my build

1) Procs Fortify
2) Quickly applies the curses
3) Procs Summon Holy Relic (which I recently added into an Unset ring)


Ah yes - holy relic w/ shield charge fortified is a lovely thing - maybe that's why physical reflect goes so well.

I haven't been running animate guardian so there's my free slot in my gear w/o the unset ring.
If you're really into Holy Relic, maybe consider scrapping the potential of a Convoking Wand and just going with Cyclone to proc Fortify? Cyclone will hit a TON proc'ing the Relic non-stop. (Though it doesn't get you into battle quickly.)
https://www.ForeverExiled.com/: Forever Exiled, A Path of Exile Podcast
Last edited by Wrecker_of_Days#7691 on Jun 27, 2020, 3:26:45 PM
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subliminaldelta wrote:
I actually want to amend my previous statement- acquiring Mistress of Sacrifice does WONDERS for tankiness once you get Bone Offering. Suddenly being in the midst of combat isn't so bad!
Awesome! I'm glad it's working better. We could easily greatly increase our DPS with the other two offerings but I REALLY like Bone Offering here. Good for you. I'm glad it's working better for you.

I also find that being in the middle of combat has me learning battles/enemies better. You get much more comfortable with enemy/boss mechanics when you're right in the middle of it all.
https://www.ForeverExiled.com/: Forever Exiled, A Path of Exile Podcast
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Caligula_Exile wrote:

I think the kind of offering is randomly chosen. Not too bad, in my opinion. All three of them can be useful.

I didn't even think of the CWDT setup... So we would save ascendancy points and at least one socket... and I guess we wouldn't suffer from the malus that Mistress of Scrifice has ("Your Offerings have 25% reduced Effect on you").


The Queens Hunger is a very interesting item, especially if we can find something useful to put in the CWDT setup in place of Bone Offering.

The 5 link is fairly affordable but the 6 link is likely way out of my price range, even long term, given how little currency I am generating this league.
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Wrecker_of_Days wrote:

If you're really into Holy Relic, maybe consider scrapping the potential of a Convoking Wand and just going with Cyclone to proc Fortify? Cyclone will hit a TON proc'ing the Relic non-stop. (Though it doesn't get you into battle quickly.)


I have had excellent luck just spamming Shield Charge and zooming around with a Quicksilver flask. I can proc Holy Relic and Fortify very very easily doing this.
Last edited by AndyLovesHisBge#5265 on Jun 27, 2020, 3:38:43 PM
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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:


I fear that is going to come back to bite me while mapping but at least it should be easy enough to tell what is happening.

Best Case: The zombies don't need minion life and I can add in another damage support for the 6th link.

Worst Case: Zombies die almost every map at which I just add in Minion Life to help.


I already fought Sirus (not a single zombie died) and doing T14-16 maps. And Zombies don't need life support gem to stay alive (the more damage you do with them, the more they leech it back). They have amazing life regen and leech, so they always (99.9% of the time) stay alive.
BUT where they can die is when fighting Veritania, the Redeemer. If they go into the storm - they can't sustain the constant damage done to them. Since I don't use meat shield it's a bit harder to control their behavior in that fight. I have to spam skeletons far away from the boss to call them back to me and out of danger ^^, but my skeletons and Spectres finish here off anyway. So I don't have a problem even if I'm down to 2 zombies in that fight.
The other time I lost zombies was when I fought Atziri. She had a reflect mod and my zombies weren't as good then, so i can't complain about them dying there ^^

Physical reflect maps are not so bad either. I just did a T14 wasteland map and only 1 zombie died on a beyond boss. Lower tier maps with reflect don't impact them at all.
Last edited by M_atrix#2043 on Jun 27, 2020, 6:44:03 PM
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M_atrix wrote:
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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:


I fear that is going to come back to bite me while mapping but at least it should be easy enough to tell what is happening.

Best Case: The zombies don't need minion life and I can add in another damage support for the 6th link.

Worst Case: Zombies die almost every map at which I just add in Minion Life to help.


I already fought Sirus (not a single zombie died) and doing T14-16 maps. And Zombies don't need life support gem to stay alive (the more damage you do with them, the more they leech it back). They have amazing life regen and leech, so they always (99.9% of the time) stay alive.
BUT where they can die is when fighting Veritania, the Redeemer. If they go into the storm - they can't sustain the constant damage done to them. Since I don't use meat shield it's a bit harder to control their behavior in that fight. I have to spam skeletons far away from the boss to call them back to me and out of danger ^^, but my skeletons and Spectres finish here off anyway. So I don't have a problem even if I'm down to 2 zombies in that fight.
The other time I lost zombies was when I fought Atziri. She had a reflect mod and my zombies weren't as good then, so i can't complain about them dying there ^^

Physical reflect maps is not so bad either. I just did a T14 wasteland map and only 1 zombie died on a beyond boss. Lower tier maps with reflect don't impact them at all.


great news thanks!

I will keep my guard up during Veritania. I am using both meat shield and convocation so I can usually pull them out of any bad spots instantly.
Last edited by AndyLovesHisBge#5265 on Jun 27, 2020, 4:58:58 PM
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Caligula_Exile wrote:
Could The Queen's Hunger be a nice armour for this witch?

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Trigger Level 20 Bone Offering, Flesh Offering or Spirit Offering every 5 seconds
Offering Skills Triggered this way also affect you


We could spare the ascendancy points for Mistress of Sacrifice and could take Commander of Darkness instead.
Caligula_Exile, it would be awesome AND sexy.
https://www.ForeverExiled.com/: Forever Exiled, A Path of Exile Podcast
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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:
The Queens Hunger is a very interesting item, especially if we can find something useful to put in the CWDT setup in place of Bone Offering.

The 5 link is fairly affordable but the 6 link is likely way out of my price range, even long term, given how little currency I am generating this league.
With Harvest, 5 linking an item can be easy. Without Harvest, you only need 150 fusings to craft 5 links. You can trade Jeweller's Orbs for fusing with Lani (purchase). So it's not too daunting of a task.
https://www.ForeverExiled.com/: Forever Exiled, A Path of Exile Podcast
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M_atrix wrote:
I already fought Sirus (not a single zombie died) and doing T14-16 maps. And Zombies don't need life support gem to stay alive (the more damage you do with them, the more they leech it back). They have amazing life regen and leech, so they always (99.9% of the time) stay alive.
BUT where they can die is when fighting Veritania, the Redeemer. If they go into the storm - they can't sustain the constant damage done to them. Since I don't use meat shield it's a bit harder to control their behavior in that fight. I have to spam skeletons far away from the boss to call them back to me and out of danger ^^, but my skeletons and Spectres finish here off anyway. So I don't have a problem even if I'm down to 2 zombies in that fight.
The other time I lost zombies was when I fought Atziri. She had a reflect mod and my zombies weren't as good then, so i can't complain about them dying there ^^

Physical reflect maps is not so bad either. I just did a T14 wasteland map and only 1 zombie died on a beyond boss. Lower tier maps with reflect don't impact them at all.
Awesome feedback M_atrix!
https://www.ForeverExiled.com/: Forever Exiled, A Path of Exile Podcast
Last edited by Wrecker_of_Days#7691 on Jun 27, 2020, 5:09:08 PM

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