You may want to avoid Wolcen

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Actkqk wrote:

Nope... Quest rewards windows in middle of fights. In this topic people are claiming for good reasons.


TBH, this is the only thing that annoys me about Wolcen right now.
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DoubleU wrote:
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Actkqk wrote:

Nope... Quest rewards windows in middle of fights. In this topic people are claiming for good reasons.


TBH, this is the only thing that annoys me about Wolcen right now.
There's a laundry list of passives that either outright don't work, don't work as intended/described, work but can become bugged/broken under various (and very common) circumstances, or may/may not work but no one knows because the effect isn't reflected in the character info.

It's...not a short list. And it can be extremely annoying.
I have a pretty good sense of humor. I'm not German.
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The_Impeacher wrote:
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Johny_Snow wrote:
The game is laggy and I don't understand why. Because of my ping? I have lower ping than I do in PoE and PoE runs smoother. Sometimes potions don't trigger even though I do have charges. Targeting is weird AF. Overall the game behaves worse than it did in December when I bought it.
Online?


Yes, online. It shouldn't lag, I use the same server I use for PoE and even have lower ping. It is very choppy though, it was smoother during closed beta
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DarthSki44 wrote:
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Powertrip wrote:
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DarthSki44 wrote:
Thanks for buying Wolcen, not supporting PoE, then coming to the PoE forums to launch a complaint thread about the game that is inferior, but you invested in.

Cool.


You don't get nice shiny soapbox forum badges for buying stashtabs. Just a thought.

To the OP. Don't know how long you've been around, but POE wasn't exactly a dream experience post beta. Took quite a few years to get to this point, and there's still many complaints on a myriad of fronts.


Thanks for your thoughts.

Dude came to the PoE forums to complain about Wolcen...just take that in for a second.

Then tells a story about how good PoE is in comparison, but apparently not good enough to support, while simultaneously complaing about the money they did spend on a complete other game.

Not only does this point not make sense, its targeted to the wrong audience, the wrong devs, and accomplishes nothing but head scratching.

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also people that spend money on PoE, but dont get the supporter packs, boggle me. Why not get the essentially free mtx for the same cost as points?


How do you know he hasn't said anything on the Wolcen forums as well? He came here to warn his PoE friends cos these forums are currently full of Wolcen hype threads, so it adds some balance. Why would he find his PoE friends on the Wolcen forums, assuming they haven't already bought it? Also, he isn't here simply 'complaining' about Wolcen, he's made it clear that this is a cautionary thread for those who may have been considering buying it.

Secondly, how do you know he hasn't supported the game? Not everyone who pays into this game wears a supporter badge, and in fact it's quite possible to have given the devs loads of money without having done so via a supporter pack. I'd even be an example, as I've paid more into this game than my supporter badge would indicate - as for why anyone would do that, one quite common reason is simply not having paid in all at once. All those with dozens of supporter badges show off is how much disposable income they have at any one time.

Anyway, he isn't targeting the wrong audience at all. It's just you who's choosing to read this thread as nothing but someone whining.
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gandhar0 wrote:
OP.

What is your experience with minions and summoners in general?

From what i gathered they scale very bad with gear and are mediocre feasible on higher skill levels and character levels.


Woolfio did a whole video on the state of minions in Wolcen - https://youtu.be/3qbfO-24kPA
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Exile009 wrote:


How do you know he hasn't said anything on the Wolcen forums as well? He came here to warn his PoE friends cos these forums are currently full of Wolcen hype threads, so it adds some balance. Why would he find his PoE friends on the Wolcen forums, assuming they haven't already bought it? Also, he isn't here simply 'complaining' about Wolcen, he's made it clear that this is a cautionary thread for those who may have been considering buying it.

Secondly, how do you know he hasn't supported the game? Not everyone who pays into this game wears a supporter badge, and in fact it's quite possible to have given the devs loads of money without having done so via a supporter pack. I'd even be an example, as I've paid more into this game than my supporter badge would indicate - as for why anyone would do that, one quite common reason is simply not having paid in all at once. All those with dozens of supporter badges show off is how much disposable income they have at any one time.

Anyway, he isn't targeting the wrong audience at all. It's just you who's choosing to read this thread as nothing but someone whining.


Meh, as per usual I dont agree with much of anything you said. I dont understand how your assumptions would be anymore valid than mine.

At least mine are based on facts.

First he did come to the PoE forums to post about Wolcen. That's a fact. I dont know if he did to the D3 forums, the Grim Dawn forums, the Wolcen forums, etc, I can only speak to what he did here.

Second he did in fact pay money for Wolcen.

Third, there is no clear evidence that he contributed to PoE at all. Maybe he did, and maybe he didn't. Badges, at the very least, confirm you did support.

Basically I have no issue with the generic premise of posting what you want in Off-Topic, but that doesnt somehow give you blanket immunity from criticism, or logical questions as to the point you are trying to make.

Again, paying for Wolcen, admittedly stating PoE is better, then posting in the PoE forums complaining about the support you gave Wolcen, and by all accounts didnt give PoE, isnt a great look for an intelligent person.

At best you leave the thread saying "Huh?"
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln
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DarthSki44 wrote:
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Exile009 wrote:


How do you know he hasn't said anything on the Wolcen forums as well? He came here to warn his PoE friends cos these forums are currently full of Wolcen hype threads, so it adds some balance. Why would he find his PoE friends on the Wolcen forums, assuming they haven't already bought it? Also, he isn't here simply 'complaining' about Wolcen, he's made it clear that this is a cautionary thread for those who may have been considering buying it.

Secondly, how do you know he hasn't supported the game? Not everyone who pays into this game wears a supporter badge, and in fact it's quite possible to have given the devs loads of money without having done so via a supporter pack. I'd even be an example, as I've paid more into this game than my supporter badge would indicate - as for why anyone would do that, one quite common reason is simply not having paid in all at once. All those with dozens of supporter badges show off is how much disposable income they have at any one time.

Anyway, he isn't targeting the wrong audience at all. It's just you who's choosing to read this thread as nothing but someone whining.


Meh, as per usual I dont agree with much of anything you said. I dont understand how your assumptions would be anymore valid than mine.

At least mine are based on facts.

First he did come to the PoE forums to post about Wolcen. That's a fact. I dont know if he did to the D3 forums, the Grim Dawn forums, the Wolcen forums, etc, I can only speak to what he did here.

Second he did in fact pay money for Wolcen.

Third, there is no clear evidence that he contributed to PoE at all. Maybe he did, and maybe he didn't. Badges, at the very least, confirm you did support.

Basically I have no issue with the generic premise of posting what you want in Off-Topic, but that doesnt somehow give you blanket immunity from criticism, or logical questions as to the point you are trying to make.

Again, paying for Wolcen, admittedly stating PoE is better, then posting in the PoE forums complaining about the support you gave Wolcen, and by all accounts didnt give PoE, isnt a great look for an intelligent person.

At best you leave the thread saying "Huh?"


What does it matter if he contributed to PoE or not? You know, your opinion dont magically hold more weight because you have a bunch of supporter badges.

I personally own like 50 stash pages, and every other widget stash page they make. I could care less about supporter badges, MTX, or anything else. If I want to come here on off-topic and complain about Wolcen, I fail to see how I dont have the right to do so, just because I dont have supporter badges. Maybe I just like coming here and talking from time to time, because I've had an account since 2011, played in Closed Beta, and have a certain draw/connection to this game that makes me like coming here and talking to people I've seen/conversed with for 9 years.

I dont need a support badge to do so.
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The_Impeacher wrote:
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Johny_Snow wrote:
The game is laggy and I don't understand why. Because of my ping? I have lower ping than I do in PoE and PoE runs smoother. Sometimes potions don't trigger even though I do have charges. Targeting is weird AF. Overall the game behaves worse than it did in December when I bought it.
Online?


I am not an expert on the subject, much less, but it seems bad coding. It seems that the game works in certain cycles making calculations and that causes delays in the reaction of the mouse and keyboard. The same thing happens when you are selling things on NPC. Sometimes even if you click twice the item is not sold...

BTW, I'm talking about offline mode.
Bethesda is known for having good ideas and terrible realization of them. GGG is a Bethesda subsidiary or what?
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DarthSki44 wrote:
Basically I have no issue with the generic premise of posting what you want in Off-Topic, but that doesnt somehow give you blanket immunity from criticism, or logical questions as to the point you are trying to make.


Never mind the rest of the stuff (and the other guy above has already questioned why it ought to matter whether he's contributed or not), here you're just making the fundamental mistake of assuming that just because you're afforded the freedom to criticize the OP, doesn't mean others aren't allowed to respond to or call out your criticisms. Or, in your words, you aren't somehow given "blanket immunity from criticism" either, no matter how many supporter badges you have.
Oh ffs enough with the strawman. I never said having badges makes your opinions more valid.

I was making the point that the premise from the OP was Wolcen was a RIP off and wait til it goes F2P. That PoE is the better game yet he invested in Wolcen. It's a confusing argument to make.

Unless of course he has supported PoE, which we dont know (as of now I say no), because at least then we have a comparison.

Either way, I'm not saying that Wolcen threads or criticism isnt welcome in off-topic, I dont care actually, I'm saying that the OP thought process isnt logical. (imo)

That being said I think I've made my point here. Agree or not, but I wanted to at least clear up this forum badge privilege lunacy that was developed somehow.
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
- Abraham Lincoln

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