Wolcen Hype Release!

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Foreverhappychan wrote:
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DoubleU wrote:
12.1 GB cant wait to get home from work!


Just watched the trailer on my bigass tv. Fucking gave me chills. That. Dragon.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/424370/announcements/detail/2907599623119886016

Patch notes!


Inaccessible...

Can't even play in offline mode?

Are they serious?
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awesome999 wrote:
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Foreverhappychan wrote:
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DoubleU wrote:
12.1 GB cant wait to get home from work!


Just watched the trailer on my bigass tv. Fucking gave me chills. That. Dragon.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/424370/announcements/detail/2907599623119886016

Patch notes!


Inaccessible...

Can't even play in offline mode?

Are they serious?


Uh...they're patching for the update?
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Huh. My mace dude is now an actual cultist of Chayula. That's kinda wild.
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Foreverhappychan wrote:


Uh...they're patching for the update?


It should have functioned without being online. Or a more accuracte way to put it is they are locking it from access even when offline intentionally. I didn't realise they could do that.

Edit: I don't like where this game is going. The new content seem to be require starting a new game. Seem terrible to be done this way. For online maybe it make sense. Offline, not really, Most of it seem to be the same. I can't be bothered starting over again. Gonna sit this one out.
Last edited by awesome999#2945 on Dec 3, 2020, 5:04:39 PM
I read the patch info and that was probably enough for me.

The changes to the core game do seem pretty good and some of them have been desperately needed for a long time. But I've already done everything I could hope to do with the core game, and the Chronicle content doesn't inspire me enough to start from zero to play it. I'll probably check out some streams later and see how it plays, but I doubt that will change anything for me.

Much more excited for Rogues and bows and daggers and dual-wielding in Last Epoch.
I have a pretty good sense of humor. I'm not German.
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aggromagnet wrote:
I read the patch info and that was probably enough for me.

The changes to the core game do seem pretty good and some of them have been desperately needed for a long time. But I've already done everything I could hope to do with the core game, and the Chronicle content doesn't inspire me enough to start from zero to play it. I'll probably check out some streams later and see how it plays, but I doubt that will change anything for me.

Much more excited for Rogues and bows and daggers and dual-wielding in Last Epoch.


This is fair enough, but I have room in my ARPG life for both. In fact, I feel each tickles very different ARPG bones. Last Epoch occupies a similar space as Grim Dawn for me: I'll fire it up now and then, very curious why I didn't get sucked right into it, and then stop playing not too long after, not exactly bored but definitely not excited or thrilled in the moment. I put excitement very high on my list of things games should make me feel on a regular basis these days. Years of being bored and not realising it (mindlessly numb is the term for it) on PoE has left me in that somewhat demanding condition.

Wolcen does not leave me bored or numb; I know when I've hit my limit and then I go do something else. That's pretty much the totality of the situation. :)

https://linktr.ee/wjameschan -- everything I've ever done worth talking about, and even that is debatable.

Huh. My mace dude is now an actual cultist of Chayula. That's kinda wild.
So far I'm quite impressed how well they've integrated the Chronicle feature into the main story, which has to be replayed with a new Bloodtrail character. Lots of dialogue and a reasonable, logical reason for the Chronicle's npc to be present.

Also, ALL of the numbers have been dramatically lowered. This seems to me a deliberate attempt at resisting power creep. Early days yet but we'll see how it goes.
https://linktr.ee/wjameschan -- everything I've ever done worth talking about, and even that is debatable.

Huh. My mace dude is now an actual cultist of Chayula. That's kinda wild.
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Foreverhappychan wrote:
So far I'm quite impressed how well they've integrated the Chronicle feature into the main story, which has to be replayed with a new Bloodtrail character. Lots of dialogue and a reasonable, logical reason for the Chronicle's npc to be present.

Also, ALL of the numbers have been dramatically lowered. This seems to me a deliberate attempt at resisting power creep. Early days yet but we'll see how it goes.


Sweeping nerf aren't fun and I having bad vibes. My offline characters skills are reset, the town building reset and some armour skins are missing. Should I trust my gut feel?
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awesome999 wrote:
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Foreverhappychan wrote:
So far I'm quite impressed how well they've integrated the Chronicle feature into the main story, which has to be replayed with a new Bloodtrail character. Lots of dialogue and a reasonable, logical reason for the Chronicle's npc to be present.

Also, ALL of the numbers have been dramatically lowered. This seems to me a deliberate attempt at resisting power creep. Early days yet but we'll see how it goes.


Sweeping nerf aren't fun and I having bad vibes. My offline characters skills are reset, the town building reset and some armour skins are missing. Should I trust my gut feel?


Yep. If you didn't enjoy it before, you won't enjoy it now. I'm not here to convince you either way. Merely reporting my experiences as an experienced Wolcel.

The reset has been a bit sloppy, which I expected. Legacy characters rarely survive significant updates.

Sweeping nerfs, as you put it, can be perfectly fine if they improve the feeling of the game, which in this case I think they did. Especially the ailment changes. If you disagree, well, there's always Path of Exile. It's the epitome of out-of-control creep.
https://linktr.ee/wjameschan -- everything I've ever done worth talking about, and even that is debatable.

Huh. My mace dude is now an actual cultist of Chayula. That's kinda wild.
Hahaha, one of the new incidental taunts from enemies gave me a chuckle.

The kennel master says, '*I* let the dogs out!'

Teehee.
https://linktr.ee/wjameschan -- everything I've ever done worth talking about, and even that is debatable.

Huh. My mace dude is now an actual cultist of Chayula. That's kinda wild.
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Foreverhappychan wrote:


Sweeping nerfs, as you put it, can be perfectly fine if they improve the feeling of the game, which in this case I think they did. Especially the ailment changes. If you disagree, well, there's always Path of Exile. It's the epitome of out-of-control creep.


Because reverse power creep is not a thing. Continously nerfing everything will just make the game difficult if not punishing to play which would be considered much worse than power creep, at least to your average gamer.

The most difficult thing to do is to maintain the same power level while introducing new content and mechanics which would be incredibly difficult to do without abundant of innovation and creativity which most people would be lacking.

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