Is 4500-5K life really enough w/o Kint's/wind danver, seems like that is massive difference between 5.5K and -40% damage with kints/wind dancer? Impressive DPS increase, but is that better if pushing for higher levels? Does that have the survivability, or should I level and then switch for the more DPS?
I was able to do everything in the game last league with about 4.4k life and no added defensive bonuses from a unique chest or Wind Dancer.
A fully min-maxed build can get around 5k-5.2k I believe, but that requires some heavy investment or crafting.
Essentially the key rule of this build is offense = defense. The higher your damage, the better you'll stay alive as you kill things before they can kill you.
Deathless tier 8 sirus or just accepted a few deaths?
Deathless tier 8 is very easy when the build is pumping out geared numbers. Even now I'm about 3/4ths geared and I'm doing each phase of Sirus in less than 10 seconds.
The only deaths I got were from Uber Elder, 100% Delirium 3-4 person maps, or not paying attention to scuffed mods.
I was able to do everything in the game last league with about 4.4k life and no added defensive bonuses from a unique chest or Wind Dancer.
A fully min-maxed build can get around 5k-5.2k I believe, but that requires some heavy investment or crafting.
Essentially the key rule of this build is offense = defense. The higher your damage, the better you'll stay alive as you kill things before they can kill you.
Deathless tier 8 sirus or just accepted a few deaths?
Deathless tier 8 is very easy when the build is pumping out geared numbers. Even now I'm about 3/4ths geared and I'm doing each phase of Sirus in less than 10 seconds.
The only deaths I got were from Uber Elder, 100% Delirium 3-4 person maps, or not paying attention to scuffed mods.
Ok, will sink a lot of ex into this and see, I guess I'm convinced it's worth a shot.
Last edited by battousaii on Jul 17, 2020, 11:17:47 PM
Hello everyone, i'm thinking to try this build and i have like 10-12 ex to spend on it.
Can someone share an endgame build without cluster jewel please?
I did all content in the game with this build (sirus 8, aul, uber elder etc), with no cluster jewels. Very fun build and it's not that expensive
asenath's is 1.7 ex without implicit (3-5ex with enfeeble on hit), both rings + amulet should be ~1 ex, belt and helmet 30c~ each
I crafted my boots and chest, but boots should be around 80c and the only expensive part is the chest, 13~ ex but it's not that hard to craft, you just need explode + curse, and harvest crafting the rest is easy (spell crit is guaranteed with augment caster).
total = ~17ex, without chest 4-5ex.
Are triple curses worth it? Your gear has one additional Enfeble curse.
Yeah, enfeeble helps a lot with bosses and tougher enemies, and I don't think there is another damage curse that this build can use
Sure thing! I’ll put it in list format to make it a bit easier to read.
- Switch your Blade Vortex for a Vaal Blade Vortex, level 21 preferably.
- Switch your Hollowed Mana Flask for an Atziri’s Promise
- Switch your Foreboding Divine Mana Flask for a Coralito’s Flask
- Switch your Saturated Divine Life Flask for a Sulphur Flask
- Switch your Bubbling Sacred Life Flask for a Quartz Flask
- Get a Circle of Nostalgia with Herald of Agony buff effect and increased chaos damage with Herald of Agony modifiers
- Remove your Summon Skitterbots for Flesh and Stone
- Level your Withering Step to 20 and have it on left click
- Switch Plague Bearer for Precision level 1
- Add Aspect of the Spider onto a free suffix on a rare piece of gear and use as an aura
- Get a double Malevolence Watcher’s Eye (or Malev/Precision for budget)
- Allocate Dire Torment instead of Corruption
- Make sure you’re using a fully upgraded Lunaris pantheon for dodge chance
Also pulling your PoB seemed to either not properly anoint the three notables you want for Thread of Hope if you already had those, but make sure you have them (Heart of Oak, Swift Venoms, and Revenge of the Hunted). It also didn’t pull up a second medium or small cluster jewel on your top tree, but I’m not sure if you’ve left those out.
If you want meta gear upgrades look at getting an explode/curse chest, a tailwind/faster poisons boots, a chaos damage/crafted damage belt, and a spell damage/poison damage ring.
You could also optimize your cluster jewels a bit more, mainly your mediums. Switching them all to cDoT, preferably Circling Oblivion and Wicked Pall or Wasting Affliction as the second, along with making sure all your smalls are Fettle.
Also to give an idea of what a fully geared BV is capable of (outside of crazy corrupts), you should be killing conquerors within 2-3 seconds and killing the last phase of A8 Sirus in about 4 or 5 seconds, or less.
ok thanks for some pointers in this reply mate . i did give it another try yesterday and im starting to get used to the build .
to clarify a few things :
1. i have a vaal bv . it should be showing .
2. i have a circle of nostalgia with the uber stats on it . just dont have it in for my def stats . need to look into it .
3 yes i know i need to swutch flasks ill look into that right now .
4. i do have a lvl 20 withering step and its on my walk button
5 thx ill switch skitterbots out .
6 why precision instead of pleague bearer ? and why lvl 1 ? would be awesome if its better that means 1 less buttoin to press for me tho .
7 lunaris is upgraded max .
8 im using the cluster jewels provided by the build .
9 watchers eye was on my list .
10 ill get aspect next and allocate the correct 1 .
thanks for all the info hope this really makes a massive difference .
as for the guide : its a really nice guide but tbh a bit confusing . even the pob isnt very clear as whats described in the guide . links are different everywhere etc .anyways time to get to work ill get back here soon .
Sure thing! I’ll put it in list format to make it a bit easier to read.
- Switch your Blade Vortex for a Vaal Blade Vortex, level 21 preferably.
- Switch your Hollowed Mana Flask for an Atziri’s Promise
- Switch your Foreboding Divine Mana Flask for a Coralito’s Flask
- Switch your Saturated Divine Life Flask for a Sulphur Flask
- Switch your Bubbling Sacred Life Flask for a Quartz Flask
- Get a Circle of Nostalgia with Herald of Agony buff effect and increased chaos damage with Herald of Agony modifiers
- Remove your Summon Skitterbots for Flesh and Stone
- Level your Withering Step to 20 and have it on left click
- Switch Plague Bearer for Precision level 1
- Add Aspect of the Spider onto a free suffix on a rare piece of gear and use as an aura
- Get a double Malevolence Watcher’s Eye (or Malev/Precision for budget)
- Allocate Dire Torment instead of Corruption
- Make sure you’re using a fully upgraded Lunaris pantheon for dodge chance
Also pulling your PoB seemed to either not properly anoint the three notables you want for Thread of Hope if you already had those, but make sure you have them (Heart of Oak, Swift Venoms, and Revenge of the Hunted). It also didn’t pull up a second medium or small cluster jewel on your top tree, but I’m not sure if you’ve left those out.
If you want meta gear upgrades look at getting an explode/curse chest, a tailwind/faster poisons boots, a chaos damage/crafted damage belt, and a spell damage/poison damage ring.
You could also optimize your cluster jewels a bit more, mainly your mediums. Switching them all to cDoT, preferably Circling Oblivion and Wicked Pall or Wasting Affliction as the second, along with making sure all your smalls are Fettle.
Also to give an idea of what a fully geared BV is capable of (outside of crazy corrupts), you should be killing conquerors within 2-3 seconds and killing the last phase of A8 Sirus in about 4 or 5 seconds, or less.
ok about an hour later ... :p
I got a watchers eye not the double male thats 65 exalt ... way out of my budget for now .
i did get the right anointment : dire torment .
i got flesh and stone instead of skitterbots.
swapped out plague bearer for precision . lvl 2 tho ill see how it works out .
i had 2 skill points left and indeed i had to still allocate heart of oak and revenge of the hunter .
the reason why i dont have cluster jewels yet at top is because no skillpoints . thats the last thing to do now .
aspect of spider i still need .
i got a curse chest no need for explosion ssince i got that on gloves
just a few more adjustments i guess but thanks alot hopefully this works out better .
flasks are updated too now
Last edited by MegaZebie on Jul 18, 2020, 4:11:23 AM
6 why precision instead of pleague bearer ? and why lvl 1 ? would be awesome if its better that means 1 less buttoin to press for me tho .
Well, the PB dmg compared to the rest of our dmg is very low. If you're already doing 24m Shaper DPS, PB doesn't really contribute that much to our dmg. I for one still keep it, since i don't have mana for Precision, since i'm running Skitterbots (35%) instead of Aspect (25%), and i just can't get used to withering step.
Also, if you run precision, you could try get a Watcher's Eye with Malevolence/Precision combo.
6 why precision instead of pleague bearer ? and why lvl 1 ? would be awesome if its better that means 1 less buttoin to press for me tho .
Well, the PB dmg compared to the rest of our dmg is very low. If you're already doing 24m Shaper DPS, PB doesn't really contribute that much to our dmg. I for one still keep it, since i don't have mana for Precision, since i'm running Skitterbots (35%) instead of Aspect (25%), and i just can't get used to withering step.
Also, if you run precision, you could try get a Watcher's Eye with Malevolence/Precision combo.
got a belt with aspect of spider now too . bit down on res but its fine .
watchers eye with precision might get next . gonna look for a ring first
dont really wonna run double nostalgia because of all the res and life i will lose then .
anyways my dps should be up by alot now
couple more levels for an extra medium jewel will do a bit aswell
if you dont mind check my char out again and see what you think about it . should be way better my guess
ok thanks for some pointers in this reply mate . i did give it another try yesterday and im starting to get used to the build .
to clarify a few things :
1. i have a vaal bv . it should be showing .
2. i have a circle of nostalgia with the uber stats on it . just dont have it in for my def stats . need to look into it .
3 yes i know i need to swutch flasks ill look into that right now .
4. i do have a lvl 20 withering step and its on my walk button
5 thx ill switch skitterbots out .
6 why precision instead of pleague bearer ? and why lvl 1 ? would be awesome if its better that means 1 less buttoin to press for me tho .
7 lunaris is upgraded max .
8 im using the cluster jewels provided by the build .
9 watchers eye was on my list .
10 ill get aspect next and allocate the correct 1 .
thanks for all the info hope this really makes a massive difference .
as for the guide : its a really nice guide but tbh a bit confusing . even the pob isnt very clear as whats described in the guide . links are different everywhere etc .anyways time to get to work ill get back here soon .
Cheers
Interesting, the character I pulled didn't show some of that and showed janky cluster jewel setups, not sure what I did to do that. Precision gives a lot of crit chance and allows for more Watcher's Eye mods, just being level 1. Higher is better, but it's generally not possible to use all our auras with a higher Precision unless you have a level 4 Enlighten.
The guide is slightly outdated and the PoB is a bit of a mash-up of different stages so hard to figure out.
I got a watchers eye not the double male thats 65 exalt ... way out of my budget for now .
i did get the right anointment : dire torment .
i got flesh and stone instead of skitterbots.
swapped out plague bearer for precision . lvl 2 tho ill see how it works out .
i had 2 skill points left and indeed i had to still allocate heart of oak and revenge of the hunter .
the reason why i dont have cluster jewels yet at top is because no skillpoints . thats the last thing to do now .
aspect of spider i still need .
i got a curse chest no need for explosion ssince i got that on gloves
just a few more adjustments i guess but thanks alot hopefully this works out better .
flasks are updated too now
I pulled your PoB again, for some reason it's still only showing you as using Blade Vortex rather than the Vaal Blade Vortex variant. You have a second skill that casts a large Vaal attack that moves around by itself? It could be the PoB is messing up, but it shows everything else you changed properly.
How are you out of skill points? Do you have every minor node on cluster jewels allocated? I recommend dropping any small nodes on the cluster jewels that you don't need to path to to get to the notables or jewel sockets. Also get rid of Entropy and the small node pathing to it to free up more points.
Another tip I recommend is having your CWDT at 5 and your Immortal Call at 7, but it's not necessary.
Quality'ing your 6-link gems will also help quite a bit.
