[3.17] Wallach's Hierophant Freezing Pulse Totems (No Further Updates)

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LiquidLegend wrote:
So I know this isn't exactly freezing pulse, but I switched it up to Ice Spear totems just because I like the chaining (comes in handy for multiple bosses too).
Where would you guys improve my build? It says (if I did the POB correctly) that I have 12M Sirus damage, which isn't bad but I don't BLOW UP bosses normally, just steady damage. I don't have that much currency, but could do the 2ex for a single mod watcher's eye that does cold pen, which would increase my damage by 7% or so.
I already have a good wand (would have to spend a lot to get a better one).
Have decent enough helm, boots, and gloves, though of course survivability could always be better.

So what would you guys change?

https://pastebin.com/cEkzyMuu



My first thought is if hypothermia is still good here?
Trying to figure out if bottle of faith is worth it and maybe I am doing something in POB but my cinderswallow is showing a significant higher damage increase compared to a bottle of faith. Anyone have an idea on if this is incorrect?

https://imgur.com/P4LVqxm

https://imgur.com/HkIrt1O
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NoImagination wrote:
I'm not too clear how the maths works for this - if you did a footrace between normal second wind & anomalous, which wins the 1500m run? Does it depend on e.g. enhance or quality boosts from gear?

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I'm not sure on the math really, and if it's actually faster. But I find I don't have dash on cooldown 100% of the time, especially when I am stopping to pick up items, or drop totems, etc, so having it charge up to 3 charges feels like it lets me move more quickly when I need to.

As for flasks, I was thinking a similar thing. Taking a 2nd unique, we lose out on another status removal suffix. I actually need to get heat back because right now I just have shock and bleeding. I've also seen some people running Dying Sun. Do you think the +2 projectiles per totem might be better than cast speed?

Edit: Dying Sun = bad. Fire resist negates effect of Wise Oak. Not sure how doing something like dropping wise oak for cinderswallow + dying sun would be.


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Miggaletoe wrote:
Trying to figure out if bottle of faith is worth it and maybe I am doing something in POB but my cinderswallow is showing a significant higher damage increase compared to a bottle of faith. Anyone have an idea on if this is incorrect?

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Did you make sure to check the box in config that says "Are enemies standing on Consecrated Ground?" and additionally, to make sure you are getting the health regen correct in your PoB you need to check that you are also standing on Consecrated Ground.
Anecdotally, I think it is totally worth it. I just picked it up this weekend and went from dying on T16 ultimatums like 25% of the time to 0% of the time.
Last edited by etherel90#6124 on May 18, 2021, 8:30:13 PM
Btw, about chain... I like arc build, and play few times selfcast arc elementalist, arc miner saboteur and other. But this build looks totally fine for switching from pulse to my favourite spell? Dont think about it on current league (buy some expensive gear for pulse), but its doable in general ? Just few advice for next league can be handy. Thanks.
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etherel90 wrote:
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NoImagination wrote:
I'm not too clear how the maths works for this - if you did a footrace between normal second wind & anomalous, which wins the 1500m run? Does it depend on e.g. enhance or quality boosts from gear?

Spoiler
I'm not sure on the math really, and if it's actually faster. But I find I don't have dash on cooldown 100% of the time, especially when I am stopping to pick up items, or drop totems, etc, so having it charge up to 3 charges feels like it lets me move more quickly when I need to.

As for flasks, I was thinking a similar thing. Taking a 2nd unique, we lose out on another status removal suffix. I actually need to get heat back because right now I just have shock and bleeding. I've also seen some people running Dying Sun. Do you think the +2 projectiles per totem might be better than cast speed?


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Miggaletoe wrote:
Trying to figure out if bottle of faith is worth it and maybe I am doing something in POB but my cinderswallow is showing a significant higher damage increase compared to a bottle of faith. Anyone have an idea on if this is incorrect?

Spoiler
Did you make sure to check the box in config that says "Are enemies standing on Consecrated Ground?" and additionally, to make sure you are getting the health regen correct in your PoB you need to check that you are also standing on Consecrated Ground.
Anecdotally, I think it is totally worth it. I just picked it up this weekend and went from dying on T16 ultimatums like 25% of the time to 0% of the time.


That gets the damage closer but cinderswallow is still a bit more. Maybe because I have the crit cinderswallow? I think maybe bottle of faith would replace my wise oak?
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Miggaletoe wrote:
That gets the damage closer but cinderswallow is still a bit more. Maybe because I have the crit cinderswallow? I think maybe bottle of faith would replace my wise oak?


I'm not sure. I also simmed crit cinderswallow in my build and it was about a 2% total dps increase whereas Bottled Faith was like 12%. I also don't believe that cinderswallow should be better than Wise Oak. I don't think 80% crit chance should be better than 15% cold penetration.
https://pastebin.com/Uc0td5iq

No idea what could be showing such a big difference?
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Miggaletoe wrote:
https://pastebin.com/Uc0td5iq

No idea what could be showing such a big difference?


In your POB you didn't check "Is the enemy on consecrated ground". That should fix the difference.
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Miggaletoe wrote:

No idea what could be showing such a big difference?


Ok, looked at your config settings. Here's what I fixed:
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https://imgur.com/a/fspR1QX

Under: When in Combat
1) We have 4 min endurance charges and 4 min power charges. We get frenzy charges from Cold Snap.
2) Have onslaught from Cinderswallow. (Remember to uncheck this when equipping Bottled Faith -- unless you get sleepless sentries on a cluster.
3) We have flasks avtive.
4) We've summoned totems recently. 6 max totems.
5) We are on consecrated ground. (Bottled Faith)
6) We have shattered recently. (We freeze enemies. They shatter when they die while frozen.)

Under: For Effective DPS
1) Our crit chance is lucky, from Diamond Flask.
2) Enemy is blinded (From Pandemonius)
3) Enemy is Chilled (From cold damage)
4) Enemy is Chilled by our hits (from Pandemonius)
5) Enemy is Frozen (from cold damage)
6) Enemy is Shocked @ 15% (from Cold Conduction on cluster jewel)
7) Enemy is on Consecrated Ground (From Bottled Faith)
8) Shaper/Guardian to get effective shaper DPS.

Ok, now while comparing I will uncheck the consecrated ground and check Onslaught for Cinderswallow DPS:
https://imgur.com/OAHorPI

Now uncheck Onslaught and check consecrated ground:
https://imgur.com/UI5erQn

Bottled Faith is about a 12% increase over Cinderswallow to your Total DPS.



Last edited by etherel90#6124 on May 18, 2021, 12:31:47 PM
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etherel90 wrote:
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Miggaletoe wrote:

No idea what could be showing such a big difference?


Ok, looked at your config settings. Here's what I fixed:
Spoiler

https://imgur.com/a/fspR1QX

Under: When in Combat
1) We have 4 min endurance charges and 4 min power charges. We get frenzy charges from Cold Snap.
2) Have onslaught from Cinderswallow. (Remember to uncheck this when equipping Bottled Faith -- unless you get sleepless sentries on a cluster.
3) We have flasks avtive.
4) We've summoned totems recently. 6 max totems.
5) We are on consecrated ground. (Bottled Faith)
6) We have shattered recently. (We freeze enemies. They shatter when they die while frozen.)

Under: For Effective DPS
1) Our crit chance is lucky, from Diamond Flask.
2) Enemy is blinded (From Pandemonius)
3) Enemy is Chilled (From cold damage)
4) Enemy is Chilled by our hits (from Pandemonius)
5) Enemy is Frozen (from cold damage)
6) Enemy is Shocked @ 15% (from Cold Conduction on cluster jewel)
7) Enemy is on Consecrated Ground (From Bottled Faith)
8) Shaper/Guardian to get effective shaper DPS.

Ok, now while comparing I will uncheck the consecrated ground and check Onslaught for Cinderswallow DPS:
https://imgur.com/OAHorPI

Now uncheck Onslaught and check consecrated ground:
https://imgur.com/UI5erQn

Bottled Faith is about a 12% increase over Cinderswallow to your Total DPS.





Welp guess its time to save up and buy the bottle I guess. Thanks!

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