[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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honeyface wrote:

Guys Im new to this build and really liking it, i have a question tho:
Im only getting poison stacks if i have phys damage to spells which im currently getting from a random jewel, without the jewel i cant get the herald to spawn.
What am I doing wrong? using this wand:

Also not using Circle of nostalgia ring atm.

Didn't you answer your own question?

You need to poison to spawn the Crawler. You can only poison with Ball Lightning when it has physical or chaos damage added too it. That is for example possible through an abyss jewel, Circle of Nostalgia or the Lesser Poison support gem.

I would just buy a Circle of Nostalgia. They cost like 7c. Or go directly for the correct one with reduced mana reservation for 13c.

Also, your characters are set to private, so I can't really have a look.

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Mecielle wrote:

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ibims111 wrote:

So finally I could manage to take Sirus down today with 3 portals. I died twice to his tripple beam in Phase 3. Thank god he does not spawn new storms in phase 3. Sirus dropped gloves which bricked on the third vaal orb after two white sockets.

I also did Shaper and Elder (25% phys to cold hatred mod). No luck at all this league.

So besides spending 10 ex for empower lvl 4 and Hoag 21/20 I only got some challenges done. Feels bad man...

Wait until you do 8 Sirus runs one after the other, and get nothing. Nothing from 36 bosses in a row. 32 Conquerors who each can drop their exalted or awakened gems and 8 Sirus fights. Feels even better :D

I've yet farm Sirus, but I regularly kill all other bosses, guess I got lucky with drops for the most part, I usually get between 2 ex and 7 ex in value.

So far at 400 depth and saw each boss once and neither dropped anything to write home about.

I'm almost level 97 now and it's silly how easy it is to stay alive. I bought a bottled faith yesterday and haven't looked back, certainly recommended upgrade wherever you can afford it.

just got home from work and wanted to try and grab some spectres real quick if anyone happens to be on that can pop some in their HO.

Explain me how this build works. Why hatred gives me es , if its written that it cold damage buff. Who is damaging , what 4 specters doing ? WHy so slow clear speed.
Look at my gear pls and tell me if im doing smth wrong.
Have no money for flasks, 21 level hoa, 21 level spectre. Lethal pride(how it works i dont know)
Yesterday tried to farm t13 and t 14 maps - died on bosses - it damaging me and i can die: -+85 - all resists. 10.5 k es , 7k mana. Very annoying clear speed - u need to wait when your guys will kil all enemies, some crips staying alive after clearing. Dissapointed.

Gotta get this off my chest.

My gear is medium I feel, got lucky with a +1 shaper touch the rest is well rolled required gear.



Using 20/20 agony, +1 wand and deathmark instead of empower as the skin of the loyal with 3r2g1b is too expensive. Getting the same single target dps with deathmark as with a 7ex gem. No 36ex watcher eye mana as ES, lol.

Got 12k ES, 1mil shaper dps if enemy is deathmarked, 837k dps if not, 34k armor with flasks. I don't know if it's the boss buff effect but I feel squishy as hell, I've even put convocation in the wand instead of desecrate as I had to cast it non-stop, also defensive flasks up all the time, felt like playing a pathfinder not a tank class.

The reason is that HoAg does not kill many things quick enough. The damage is there but the clear is not. The herald lags behind if it's not constantly convocate.dThis affects many other aspects of the game:

- legion I can clear at most half of the mobs, in open spaces.
- blight maps I can do t13 but t14 is very close, for bigger tiers I have to use the skelemancer.
- solo pure breach runs? forget about it.
- alva domains depends on layout but usually I clear at least 3/4 of them which is not optimal.

Gotta give the devil its due, the bossing is impeccable and I've had no metamorph issues so far.

I'm at work so I can't properly see your characters tree right now. The specs are for meat shield, HoA does the damage. From what I can see, get an empower 3, corrupted is np, and level your own in secondary weapon slot, it raises all gems by 1 level.

I also don't get why you use atziris promise it does nothing for you (to my knowledge) get a basic quartz/sulphur flask instead, it'll do more for survivability. Other than that can see not all your gems are level 20 yet, maybe someone else can take a further look.

Empower 4s are like 20ex on Xbox right now. Can I do all content with a level 3 instead?

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purpur555 wrote:

Explain me how this build works. Why hatred gives me es , if its written that it cold damage buff. Who is damaging , what 4 specters doing ? WHy so slow clear speed.
Look at my gear pls and tell me if im doing smth wrong.

Have no money for flasks, 21 level hoa, 21 level spectre. Lethal pride(how it works i dont know)
Yesterday tried to farm t13 and t 14 maps - died on bosses - it damaging me and i can die: -+85 - all resists. 10.5 k es , 7k mana. Very annoying clear speed - u need to wait when your guys will kil all enemies, some crips staying alive after clearing. Dissapointed.

I've only been playing this build for a bit but was playing a different HoA build till I switched to this so I can answer some of your questions. Your helm makes you gain armor and your ascendancy makes you gain ES based on the amount of your reserved mana. That's why the build tries to make you reserve as much mana as you can. Your lethal pride in the jewel is wrong. Use divines on it till the name changes from kaom to kiloava and then take the minion instability node above it. With the lethal pride jewel it makes that node double your block, that's some of your survivability right there. You need to get the path of building link for the level 94 tree and follow that one as yours is a bit off. Your damage will go up as your gems level more, especially empower since it's level 2. I think you usually use skitterbots instead of flesh and stone as well starting out. Herald of agony does the damage and you stack up it's damage by hitting enemies with ball of lightning to stack poison and virulence stacks. The spectres help tank and provide the feeding frenzy buff as well gain onslaught from your ascendancy.

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pr13st wrote:

Gotta get this off my chest.

My gear is medium I feel, got lucky with a +1 shaper touch the rest is well rolled required gear.

Using 20/20 agony, +1 wand and deathmark instead of empower as the skin of the loyal with 3r2g1b is too expensive. Getting the same single target dps with deathmark as with a 7ex gem. No 36ex watcher eye mana as ES, lol.

Got 12k ES, 1mil shaper dps if enemy is deathmarked, 837k dps if not, 34k armor with flasks. I don't know if it's the boss buff effect but I feel squishy as hell, I've even put convocation in the wand instead of desecrate as I had to cast it non-stop, also defensive flasks up all the time, felt like playing a pathfinder not a tank class.

The reason is that HoAg does not kill many things quick enough. The damage is there but the clear is not. The herald lags behind if it's not constantly convocate.dThis affects many other aspects of the game:

- legion I can clear at most half of the mobs, in open spaces.
- blight maps I can do t13 but t14 is very close, for bigger tiers I have to use the skelemancer.
- solo pure breach runs? forget about it.
- alva domains depends on layout but usually I clear at least 3/4 of them which is not optimal.

Gotta give the devil its due, the bossing is impeccable and I've had no metamorph issues so far.

So one of your main problems is using maim instead of Empower and get a level 21 HoA. Empower level 3 adds 3 levels to Herald of agony increasing it's damage a lot. Herald of agony benefits heavily off of levels. Doing just that adds over 500k dps. Both meat shield and feeding frenzy need to be leveled, not sure why you haven't been leveling them. Make sure to cast convocation often to keep HoA with you as you move along and for better positioning on bosses.

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madziar169 wrote:

Hi all Guardians ! I found that we can do summon skelly variant of those build. Can anyone summ up general differences of terms how the play will change ? Like clear boss dps the survi. ?

It really comes down to if you like skeletons or not. I've had a lot of people message me asking questions about skeles because they either hate HaO or hate casting ball lightning.

Personally I enjoy the skeleton play style. Its a 1 button cast, you just run and cast skeletons as if they were a nova (they spread out and splash damage packs). I pretty much run and cast them left, right, center (depending on mob location), and keep going.

I believe the skele build allows you to be a bit more tanky because you can take vaal discipline (19-20k es non watchers eye 23-25k es with eye).

That being said, some of the other guys in here have also ran skeles and ran into issues. They have had their skeletons die fighting metamorphs (which feels rare to me, but maybe level 30 skeles makes a big diff).

Personally I have not had any issues with any content thus far. I'm nearing level 98 and may make this my first build to go to 100. It is the best all around build I have ever played (I've played some other very strong ones including a 200ex HoWA Jugg). I wish my internet didn't lag or I can get a good lag free night to record some game play because I 100% feel like my clear / boss DPS is very similar to the high end HoA videos I've seen here.

Keep in mind others experiences though, I'd hate to give it a glowing endorsement and have someone spend 20ex and a day collecting gear to be underwhelmed.