[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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bluesylph wrote:

Probably more the amulet but even that's hard. For spectres it's also tricky since kind of need 4 unless add in a golem somewhere or something, to still give the boost.

My first gut instinct would be to assume the amulet as well. Only problem is you lose so many stats if you drop it. Then you still have to make sure you have enough dex to cover HOA so you're still running some not optimum gear probably. Seems like a headache. But that sweet sweet lvl 31 HOA.

I just checked my build and going from level 29 to level 31 would take me from 1.33m an attack and 3.8m dps to 1.63m an attack and 5.13m dps.

It's a huge jump to get emp 4 and then add a +1 amulet. But the stats. Hmmm.

01/04/2020 Update:

Animate Guardian Set Up (Thank you CTSabba for the inspiration)!

https://pastebin.com/g6hGJF7R

Picked up Animate Guardian with Kingmaker, Leer Cast helmet, Southbound glove, Victario's Flight boots and a rare armor with +100 life, 2% regeneration, and crafted "gain 10% of maximum life as energy shield". Changed the tree slightly to pick up 24% minion life and 1% regeneration on the way to Death Attunement.

My shield link is Raise Spectre => Animate Guardian => Minion Life (way cheaper than empower 4 and also provide more life which scales with rare chest armor and spirit offering). Animate Guardian with 55K health, 7600 energy shield and 1600 per second health regeneration, if I block he gets 2500 per second health regeneration, plus 10000 energy shield every 4 seconds or so from spirit offering. I wouldn't do delve 1000 or Sirus with him, but all other contents seem to be fine, I don't even see his health dip ever. Fortify, while not totally reliable given the small radius of Kingmaker, can still be a life saver. Culling strike smooth out the mapping tremendously, my ball of lightning and spectres can finish off low health minions efficiently.

To further upgrade this, you can add Garb of the Ephemeral to your Animate Guardian which will prevent enemies from dealing critical strikes and greatly reduce the effect of temporal chains and other slow effects. Or you can add a Mask of the Stitched Demon to give your Animate Guardian over 10K per second life regeneration if you want to take him into tougher contents.

Finally, with minion life support, I changed four Stoneskin Flayers to four carnage chieftains, without blood magic, two carnage chieftains can not keep up with frenzy charges consistently, and it is far more powerful than power charges so I ditched host chieftains. They each have 62K health and get the same defense. If you lose a chieftain on a map, that map is probably too dangerous for your Animate Guardian. Again with spirit offering I have yet to see they dip in health with this set up, even took the crew to delve 500 for a spin and they did fine, but this allows me to change my curse to projectile weakness and ensures I can do the same damage in boss fights.

With the exception of super difficult delve contents and Sirus fight, I believe this set up is better overall. I can always switch back to poacher's mark and stoneskin flayers if I am doing more difficult contents and unsummon my animate guardian, this set up seems to be the best of both worlds.

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Leptomeninges wrote:

Question about getting the boots with cannot be frozen, cannot be chilled.

I don't see any boots with everything available for sale. I have the relevant enchants. But it's hard finding boots with three open slots to accept the multiple enchants followed by the other two.

What's the best way to generate the base for this? Just roll alterations and regals until you create a decent base?

I'm a relatively new player so I appreciate the advice.

I was also looking today for one boots to put CC belt but I'm on really tide budget so I've bought 2 pairs of Two-Toned and crafted, those are not perfect ofc but with that ring I'm maxed out on res (but not for EW just yet). Actually in 700ish alts I've crafted 2 pairs almost identical (second was not with fire res but lightning + cold with same life roll, sold them for 100c so craft was almost free).

All together around 3.3 ex per pair.
Edit: I've snatched that ring after I got boots and it was only 20c, pretty decent price to cover all 3 res.

Alright, two HUGE upgrades happened within 15 minutes. I bought this amulet for 2ex and multimodded it, so 4ex total:



To make it work I had to change a +30 str node to a +30 dex node. That was enough to still use a 21 HoAg gem. Now I had a level 31 HoAg, which is a 23% total DPS boost over a level 30. In my case it was 950k more Shaper DPS. And I lost only 350 ES, which is SO totally worth it.

And then this:



came on the market for 40ex. Was actually planning to use my remaining saved up currency on a Watchers Eye, but 40ex for a +2 with perfect colors seemed incredibly cheap from having watched the market over the last days.

My numbers:

15100 ES
Shaper DPS with Pierce: 4.3m
Shaper DPS with Vile Toxins: 5.1m

And I am not using Unwavering Crusade! With it it would be:

Shaper DPS with Pierce: 5.1m
Shaper DPS with Vile Toxins: 6m

So yea, 6m Shaper DPS reached if I decide to switch Time of Need or Bastion of Hope back to Unwavering Crusade. But honestly, the numbers are already insane enough without it, and they both provide significant defense and utility.

I'm looking at that amulet and it's only 60 dex. Even if we add a +30 dex node that puts us at 90dex. Where are you getting the rest of your dex from? If I swapped this in it'd put me about 8dex short of being able to run level 21 HOA and I'm basically cap rolled on all my attribute gear.

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Mythrol1 wrote:

I'm looking at that amulet and it's only 60 dex. Even if we add a +30 dex node that puts us at 90dex. Where are you getting the rest of your dex from? If I swapped this in it'd put me about 8dex short of being able to run level 21 HOA and I'm basically cap rolled on all my attribute gear.

Mhh, have you factored in my 14% attributes from the belt? I end up at exactly 160dex right now.

EDIT: Oh! And my CoN has +6 to all attributes.

But really, even changing both +30 str nodes to +30 dex would be worth it to get level 31.

I could also drop Aligned Spirits and use the 3 passives to keep my +30 str and get Dynamo. Might actually be better. Lose a bit of damage, gain a good deal of ES. Gotta check that

Could somebody help me figure out why my damage is potato? It takes me so long to kill things :(

Thanks in advance!

So I went ahead and did this too to test and see how it affects my build. Wasn't able to find a ring quite as good as yours (mine has a bit more dex but about 25 less str and the 32 less int). I AM able to hit enough to run HOA lvl21 and I AM able to hit lvl31 HOA after all the additional buffs.

However it came at about a 1.8k ES loss. I'm now trying to figure out if Primal Spirit is the best oil to put on the amulet or maybe another one. There's no denying that the dmg certainly is a huge buff.

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Ezevade wrote:

Could somebody help me figure out why my damage is potato? It takes me so long to kill things :(

Thanks in advance!

We talked ingame, hope it helped, even if you decide to go back to Vortex. Good luck!

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Mythrol1 wrote:

So I went ahead and did this too to test and see how it affects my build. Wasn't able to find a ring quite as good as yours (mine has a bit more dex but about 25 less str and the 32 less int). I AM able to hit enough to run HOA lvl21 and I AM able to hit lvl31 HOA after all the additional buffs.

However it came at about a 1.8k ES loss. I'm now trying to figure out if Primal Spirit is the best oil to put on the amulet or maybe another one. There's no denying that the dmg certainly is a huge buff.

Was actually considering crafting the amulet myself, cant be that hard to get someething good. Hunter amulets have two +1 gem mods for HoAg. Chaos and dex, doubling the chance to hit one. And any kind of attribute mods are VERY common to hit on amulets.

Might still do that at one point in the hope of getting something better but for now I am happy with the one I have.

@hitmantb:

You should add the amulets to the first post as the much superior way of getting HoAg level 31. A shield just has too many negatives. Hunter and Warlord influenced amulets can roll a +1 for HoAg.

how do you even search poetrade for a chaos skill amulet? nothing shows up at all which surely can't be right?


edit: nevermind, there is two different +chaos gems prefixes