[3.13] HC/SC/SSF All Content Miner - Any Mine Skill - LL/CI - 12k ES w/ Videos!

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ben_hure wrote:
Hey beerleague,

Im thinking of transitioning one of my ssf standard chars to a miner following your guide.

I have a 5L-shavs laying around as well as an eye of chayula, so no presence and no prism guardian.

My question is, is it worth/possible to go LL with that alrdy? And if so, which gem slot do I sacrifice for blood magic then?

Cheers


Prism Guardian already apply Blood Magic to socketed gems and it's very low cost. Imo you should go LL with the items you already have that will skyrocket your damage
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Xydionche wrote:
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ben_hure wrote:
Hey beerleague,

Im thinking of transitioning one of my ssf standard chars to a miner following your guide.

I have a 5L-shavs laying around as well as an eye of chayula, so no presence and no prism guardian.

My question is, is it worth/possible to go LL with that alrdy? And if so, which gem slot do I sacrifice for blood magic then?

Cheers


Prism Guardian already apply Blood Magic to socketed gems and it's very low cost. Imo you should go LL with the items you already have that will skyrocket your damage


Well, the cost of prism guardian may be low, but in ssf that doesn't matter, sadly..

I am just wondering how to setup the auras with bloodmagic without the shield and if it is worth it.

I may give it a try with the BM gem then.
How is the clear speed of pyroclast with the ring debating BL vs Pyro and the clear speed on pyro my only worry.
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ben_hure wrote:
Hey beerleague,

Im thinking of transitioning one of my ssf standard chars to a miner following your guide.

I have a 5L-shavs laying around as well as an eye of chayula, so no presence and no prism guardian.

My question is, is it worth/possible to go LL with that alrdy? And if so, which gem slot do I sacrifice for blood magic then?

Cheers


Yeah, you can simply drop zealotry and make it work.
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Xydionche wrote:
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ben_hure wrote:
Hey beerleague,

Im thinking of transitioning one of my ssf standard chars to a miner following your guide.

I have a 5L-shavs laying around as well as an eye of chayula, so no presence and no prism guardian.

My question is, is it worth/possible to go LL with that alrdy? And if so, which gem slot do I sacrifice for blood magic then?

Cheers


Prism Guardian already apply Blood Magic to socketed gems and it's very low cost. Imo you should go LL with the items you already have that will skyrocket your damage


He’s SSF bro, the shield is really hard because it’s a t2 rare and no div card for it
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Travestiy wrote:
How is the clear speed of pyroclast with the ring debating BL vs Pyro and the clear speed on pyro my only worry.


With the ring it’s really good.
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BrettLee wrote:
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giingee wrote:
Hi so I starting this league with this build and it is going well so far.

I am going Pryoclast mine as I want a big bosser.

A few questions are how do we start to go LL as my enenergt shield keeps getting melted as soon as I get hit and die pretty quickly.

How do we manage to lay a lot of mines at once for binig explosions, do we need to hold down the detonate button while we are placing so it just constantly does 1 mine damage??

I am also trying to get currency for better gear but struggling alot. I am just hitting act 8 and monsters are getting really hard even with a 5 link.


All suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!


You die quickly because your build is terrible. If you want to league start with mines, you play a life based miner with phase acro. You won't accomplish anything by trying to play an ES based build with garbage equipment and no defensive mechanisms beyond blind from your ascendancy (which you do not have as yet). All your items are really bad at the moment. The wand, amulet and belt are usable, but you should try to start replacing your other equipment soon - good life (or ES if you want to stick with that) rolls are the priority.

In addition, there is almost no reason to be using a mediocre shield like that. Either use a second wand with flat fire damage to spells / +1 fire spells, or find a shield with some %spell damage / fire damage / +1 fire damage to spells. With that said, damage should not be an issue, even a 4L should demolish anything in the story.



Thank you for the non constructive criticism.

If you say my build is terrible then you are saying the build i am following terrible, I have been following the guide.

I am trying to get better gear but thats hard when nothing is dropping (gear wise and currency wise)

I tried doing 2 wands and my damage pummeted to where it just wasn't viable.

I know it says with a 4 link it should be melting but in my case that isn't happening.
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BeerLeague wrote:
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giingee wrote:
Hi so I starting this league with this build and it is going well so far.

I am going Pryoclast mine as I want a big bosser.

A few questions are how do we start to go LL as my enenergt shield keeps getting melted as soon as I get hit and die pretty quickly.

How do we manage to lay a lot of mines at once for binig explosions, do we need to hold down the detonate button while we are placing so it just constantly does 1 mine damage??

I am also trying to get currency for better gear but struggling alot. I am just hitting act 8 and monsters are getting really hard even with a 5 link.


All suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!


Generally most players new to mines have the most difficultly with acts 6-10 with this build and after that it’s a breeze. Your main issue early on with ES is getting a total that will allow you to regen from zealots oath. About 2k is fine for where you are at now.

Most of your damage should come at range, so you can avoid most damage in the game. You won’t be able to face tank until some gear upgrades.

Other than that just keep going, it will get better.

For mines, it’s a stutter step playstyle. Check the vods.


Thank you man, yeah I am trying to gain more ES and hopefully getting more soon.

I am also trying to do the range damage but it feels like ny mine throwing speed and detonation feels slow and clunky, this is my first mine build so I am going to keep trying as it is something different to what I have done before.
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giingee wrote:
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BrettLee wrote:
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giingee wrote:
Hi so I starting this league with this build and it is going well so far.

I am going Pryoclast mine as I want a big bosser.

A few questions are how do we start to go LL as my enenergt shield keeps getting melted as soon as I get hit and die pretty quickly.

How do we manage to lay a lot of mines at once for binig explosions, do we need to hold down the detonate button while we are placing so it just constantly does 1 mine damage??

I am also trying to get currency for better gear but struggling alot. I am just hitting act 8 and monsters are getting really hard even with a 5 link.


All suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!


You die quickly because your build is terrible. If you want to league start with mines, you play a life based miner with phase acro. You won't accomplish anything by trying to play an ES based build with garbage equipment and no defensive mechanisms beyond blind from your ascendancy (which you do not have as yet). All your items are really bad at the moment. The wand, amulet and belt are usable, but you should try to start replacing your other equipment soon - good life (or ES if you want to stick with that) rolls are the priority.

In addition, there is almost no reason to be using a mediocre shield like that. Either use a second wand with flat fire damage to spells / +1 fire spells, or find a shield with some %spell damage / fire damage / +1 fire damage to spells. With that said, damage should not be an issue, even a 4L should demolish anything in the story.



Thank you for the non constructive criticism.

If you say my build is terrible then you are saying the build i am following terrible, I have been following the guide.

I am trying to get better gear but thats hard when nothing is dropping (gear wise and currency wise)

I tried doing 2 wands and my damage pummeted to where it just wasn't viable.

I know it says with a 4 link it should be melting but in my case that isn't happening.


100%. I followed this guide too. As soon as I went to the maps, I was respected in the CI build, as stated in the guide. Also, the guide says that 3k es should be enough until yellow cards. I have 3100 es, some monsters oneshoted me on t1 map. It is simply unrealistic to play, there is no pleasure. I declare that this is the worst build I have started on my 13 seasons. There is no desire to die from a random monster on t1 map !!!
+1 to the gang of strugglers. Any help is appreciated.

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