[3.13] HC/SC/SSF All Content Miner - Any Mine Skill - LL/CI - 12k ES w/ Videos!

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rainmeadow wrote:
Hey BeerLeague, thanks for the awesome guide! How often do you get one-shot/die due to the Delirium league mechanics? I'm currently playing a life miner and I'm thinking about switching to LL. Have you played both regular life and LL/CI and can compare survivability and damage of both?


i played "highlife" -Icicle last league, you could get bonkers ammount of health (somewhat near 9k health w\o Kaoms Heart) and armor (for that phat VMS ;) ) and had enough damage to clear most of the content, even t16 metas. But LL is just way too much "free" damage you are missing, only thing that im worried about LL/CI that you dont anywhere near decent ammount of armor to survive those "i blinked and died" physical projectiles or melee swings :( .

Icicle4Lyf
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nazQL_ wrote:
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rainmeadow wrote:
Hey BeerLeague, thanks for the awesome guide! How often do you get one-shot/die due to the Delirium league mechanics? I'm currently playing a life miner and I'm thinking about switching to LL. Have you played both regular life and LL/CI and can compare survivability and damage of both?


i played "highlife" -Icicle last league, you could get bonkers ammount of health (somewhat near 9k health w\o Kaoms Heart) and armor (for that phat VMS ;) ) and had enough damage to clear most of the content, even t16 metas. But LL is just way too much "free" damage you are missing, only thing that im worried about LL/CI that you dont anywhere near decent ammount of armor to survive those "i blinked and died" physical projectiles or melee swings :( .

Icicle4Lyf


Enfeeble, block and aspect of the spider are much better than the crappy amount of amour you can get on the life version. Trust me, ive played both quite a bit. The life version is utter garbage. After you switch you will be amazed that you spent as long as you did with the life variant.
Yeah, swapped to LL as soon as i figured how the LL builds work, took a while but it was zooming after. This league i started Life/Es hybrid and now i got "decent" CI going, many upgrades still to purchase (Mitts, Ecnahnted helm, Mark of the Shaper etc.) and the damage seems to be more than enough for the content that im currently doing....
Thats kinda impressive how you get like 10k ES on LL, im having like 7.5k currently on CI widepeepoSad
What would be your estimate of a fair market value for a double corrupted +2 aura/ +2 aoe gems prism guardian shield?
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BeerLeague wrote:
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MrOnionRIng wrote:
Could somone explain, why almost everyone is using ball lighting instead of Pyroclast?


Mostly because the ring that makes Pyroclast good, Astral Projector, is really expensive this league


It's almost affordable now - below 10 ex... used to be 60 ex the first week. Never played Pyroclast Mines, how is it compared to Ball lightning? Is it worth investing the 10 ex for the ring?
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rainmeadow wrote:
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BeerLeague wrote:
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MrOnionRIng wrote:
Could somone explain, why almost everyone is using ball lighting instead of Pyroclast?


Mostly because the ring that makes Pyroclast good, Astral Projector, is really expensive this league


It's almost affordable now - below 10 ex... used to be 60 ex the first week. Never played Pyroclast Mines, how is it compared to Ball lightning? Is it worth investing the 10 ex for the ring?


Not in my opinion. Its a better boss killer, but the clear is significantly worse
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nazQL_ wrote:
Yeah, swapped to LL as soon as i figured how the LL builds work, took a while but it was zooming after. This league i started Life/Es hybrid and now i got "decent" CI going, many upgrades still to purchase (Mitts, Ecnahnted helm, Mark of the Shaper etc.) and the damage seems to be more than enough for the content that im currently doing....
Thats kinda impressive how you get like 10k ES on LL, im having like 7.5k currently on CI widepeepoSad


Missing 10k at the moment in current league, at 9.4k. Just need a clarity watchers eye or a few more levels to get there
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pietoner wrote:
What would be your estimate of a fair market value for a double corrupted +2 aura/ +2 aoe gems prism guardian shield?


A crap ton
Do you have a ball park estimate? Ive seen one at 100ex, but way above my budget for now.

Do you see any possible synergy with energy from naught because I can't justify spending at least 5 nodes just for a little bit of extra ES when 2 jewels provide much more DPS benefits.
Last edited by pietoner on Mar 27, 2020, 6:12:10 PM
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pietoner wrote:
Do you have a ball park estimate? Ive seen one at 100ex, but way above my budget for now.

Do you see any possible synergy with energy from naught because I can't justify spending at least 5 nodes just for a little bit of extra ES when 2 jewels provide much more DPS benefits.


Personally I think 80-100 ex is probably about right for that.

I like the extra flat ES, the build doesnt need the damage.

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