3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

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Bisrob wrote:
Hey guys,

I'm considering to play this as a league starter next league (assuming no patch notes impacts), but I'm struggeling with the early leveling.

Rolled a char and I'm lvl 14 so far.
The guide recommends to play with SRS until lvl 12, then transitioning to raise zombies and skeletons.

However at lvl 14, they barely do any decent damage (recommended links are used: zombie / skeleton + minion damage + melee splash).

I really doubt that I will enjoy the further progress, especially in a fresh league.

Do you guys have additional recommendations on how to level smoothly a minion build?

Thank you very much!

Edit1: I haven't linked my gear because the damage should come from the gem levels
Edit2: they die fast ^^


SRS + Minion Damage Support + Infernal Legion on a 3B may give you more mileage at early levels. I started a new SSF Witch yesterday, and she's speed clearing with SRS/Zombies at Lv 23. Some packs die to SRS even before my zombies get there. I haven't bothered to switch to Skeletons, though it gets a little tiring at times with the SRS spam.

You may also need to tweak your early passive skill allocation. Going straight for Enduring Bond is a huge boost, especially with SRS.
https://poeplanner.com/ABMAABkAEjMAAAnfsJLBjr4RLXyDi3ZWLjrpHggAAAAAAA==

I previously followed the levelling guide in this thread, but it was a little slow until mid Act 3. It only sped up after I got Feeding Frenzy Support. I rerolled and am now loosely following the levelling guide from another thread. This one seems smoother for the early early game:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2624013
Last edited by zzled#5973 on Jun 4, 2020, 5:08:43 AM
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Bisrob wrote:
Hey guys,

I'm considering to play this as a league starter next league (assuming no patch notes impacts), but I'm struggeling with the early leveling.

Rolled a char and I'm lvl 14 so far.
The guide recommends to play with SRS until lvl 12, then transitioning to raise zombies and skeletons.

However at lvl 14, they barely do any decent damage (recommended links are used: zombie / skeleton + minion damage + melee splash).

I really doubt that I will enjoy the further progress, especially in a fresh league.

Do you guys have additional recommendations on how to level smoothly a minion build?

Thank you very much!

Edit1: I haven't linked my gear because the damage should come from the gem levels
Edit2: they die fast ^^


I´ve tried the leveling yesterday for this build (never played it before) and at lvl 14 felt good. Did you level up the raise zombie gem since you got it even if you were using SRS? maybe you didn´t and it´s actually low level and that´s the problem.

For me the build only felt slow somewhere between acts 3 and 4 until i did the lab and crafted a +1 minion gems helmet (killing Dominus was really painful) Then it was pretty smooth again. Btw i linked minion life in a 4-link because zombies dying all the time was really annoying, and it worked really well, and i also tried Carrion Golem and i liked it.

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Ecroartu wrote:
yeah, that was my thoughts, but it was in a build, thats why i think it was a good thing to ask about. can you suggest a gem to replace holy relic?


You aren´t running an animate guardian. This is a good alternative. With kingmaker it gives you and your minions fortify and cullings strike. There are several options for equipping on the first page.
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Headhunters1337 wrote:

The prophecy i've been spamming all my silver coins and never get it unfortunately.
About the gems i would like to switch them after I am able to get my hands on a juggernaut staff with minion damage (still figuring out where to farm it).
I still get oneshotted by all shaper guardians so I have no access to shaper.
About ring and amulet I have the same of the first page.
I am playing the tank endgame setup
I made my char public, you can check my skill tree.

Thank you!


As long as you are not playing ssf you can buy the prophecy and the gloves.
you can anoint your amulet with death attunement so you save 7 points on skilltree. Why are you using elemental equilibrium?
Your first goal is to hit 1000 strength so that your baron works.
Go to utmost might, born to fight, heart of the warrior and warriors blood.
Get rid of the spiritual command cluster. Change the small int node from the right side ofpurity of flesh to the left.
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Headhunters1337 wrote:


The prophecy i've been spamming all my silver coins and never get it unfortunately.
About the gems i would like to switch them after I am able to get my hands on a juggernaut staff with minion damage (still figuring out where to farm it).
I still get oneshotted by all shaper guardians so I have no access to shaper.
About ring and amulet I have the same of the first page.
I am playing the tank endgame setup
I made my char public, you can check my skill tree.

Thank you!


OK first things first, ur following an elemental equilibrium build. this guide is not for the elemental equilibrium. so u should either change ur setup and tree to the suggested ones in the OP or u can search for elemental equilibrium summoner builds.

u really need a 5 or six link zombies or spectres or skeletons for the end game stuff. srry to say this but ur gears are very bad. i dont know hows the market in ps4 but u should at least get some high strength and life gears. but from my personal experience with summoner . the tanky-endgame version is very nice for u. the EQ build is very hard to manage. u have to have very specific gears and u need to give ur minions an elemental type of damage which is not used by ur character.

u said u were following the end-game version but after looking at ur tree and gear im sure that ur doing an elemental equilibrium build. its very good but u need very specific builds for the EQ to work correctly. as suggested by Izrproof GET shapers touch gloves. the pre nerf version since ur in standard league. its not that expensive.

if u need further help dont hesitate to ask
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dragon15423 wrote:
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Headhunters1337 wrote:


The prophecy i've been spamming all my silver coins and never get it unfortunately.
About the gems i would like to switch them after I am able to get my hands on a juggernaut staff with minion damage (still figuring out where to farm it).
I still get oneshotted by all shaper guardians so I have no access to shaper.
About ring and amulet I have the same of the first page.
I am playing the tank endgame setup
I made my char public, you can check my skill tree.

Thank you!


OK first things first, ur following an elemental equilibrium build. this guide is not for the elemental equilibrium. so u should either change ur setup and tree to the suggested ones in the OP or u can search for elemental equilibrium summoner builds.

u really need a 5 or six link zombies or spectres or skeletons for the end game stuff. srry to say this but ur gears are very bad. i dont know hows the market in ps4 but u should at least get some high strength and life gears. but from my personal experience with summoner . the tanky-endgame version is very nice for u. the EQ build is very hard to manage. u have to have very specific gears and u need to give ur minions an elemental type of damage which is not used by ur character.

u said u were following the end-game version but after looking at ur tree and gear im sure that ur doing an elemental equilibrium build. its very good but u need very specific builds for the EQ to work correctly. as suggested by Izrproof GET shapers touch gloves. the pre nerf version since ur in standard league. its not that expensive.

if u need further help dont hesitate to ask


Thank you for the insights, I will change my skill tree according to the tanky one.
I will try later to find some better gear with higher strenght and life but on ps4 the prices are over the top so that's why I am trying to find ways to farm karui maul and judgment staff with minion dmg 1xx%
Last edited by Headhunters1337#9480 on Jun 4, 2020, 11:40:04 AM
Hi, Can someone help me see if I am doing any major mistakes. I'm currently focusing on lvling my gems and getting better jewels. Had bad rolls on elegant hubris so currently got a free jewel slot. I still feel squishy even though i got 5khealth and 2k es.
Heres the POB link.
https://pastebin.com/rq0jhy0j


thanks
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Vamii wrote:
Hi, Can someone help me see if I am doing any major mistakes. I'm currently focusing on lvling my gems and getting better jewels. Had bad rolls on elegant hubris so currently got a free jewel slot. I still feel squishy even though i got 5khealth and 2k es.
Heres the POB link.
https://pastebin.com/rq0jhy0j


thanks


hello,

first u should probably get either a 6link femurs or a better two handed weapon with +1 to active gem and +2 to support gems at first. if u have a higher budget then u can get a weapon with those two mods with minion dmg,minion attack and minion cast speed. next step is to upgrade ur astramentis to +20% quality for more attributes.

then get 1k strength minimum for the zombies to leech back health to u.
get empower lvl 3 , that lvl 1 doesnt do anything. lvl 3 are cheap now. other gems will lvl up as u do more maps so no problem there.

as for why ur feeling squishy is because the zombies arent leeching hp to u since ur below 1k strength for the barons unique property to work.

if u can invest in cluster jewels. they are very good. and also upgrade ur cyclopian coil belt. ur current one gives 11% attributes. get one with 15% attributes. ull reach 1k str immediately from that upgrade.

ask for help in game or here . always ready to help a fellow player.
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Headhunters1337 wrote:


Thank you for the insights, I will change my skill tree according to the tanky one.
I will try later to find some better gear with higher strenght and life but on ps4 the prices are over the top so that's why I am trying to find ways to farm karui maul and judgment staff with minion dmg 1xx%


i think those drop in alvas temple if im not wrong. or u can buy one with those mods from trade if they are cheap. u can also go with bow and quiver setup for more str and resist on quiver. but yea u can try dropping it in alvas temple.
Thanks!

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dragon15423 wrote:
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Vamii wrote:
Hi, Can someone help me see if I am doing any major mistakes. I'm currently focusing on lvling my gems and getting better jewels. Had bad rolls on elegant hubris so currently got a free jewel slot. I still feel squishy even though i got 5khealth and 2k es.
Heres the POB link.
https://pastebin.com/rq0jhy0j


thanks


hello,

first u should probably get either a 6link femurs or a better two handed weapon with +1 to active gem and +2 to support gems at first. if u have a higher budget then u can get a weapon with those two mods with minion dmg,minion attack and minion cast speed. next step is to upgrade ur astramentis to +20% quality for more attributes.

then get 1k strength minimum for the zombies to leech back health to u.
get empower lvl 3 , that lvl 1 doesnt do anything. lvl 3 are cheap now. other gems will lvl up as u do more maps so no problem there.

as for why ur feeling squishy is because the zombies arent leeching hp to u since ur below 1k strength for the barons unique property to work.

if u can invest in cluster jewels. they are very good. and also upgrade ur cyclopian coil belt. ur current one gives 11% attributes. get one with 15% attributes. ull reach 1k str immediately from that upgrade.

ask for help in game or here . always ready to help a fellow player.

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