3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

Hey So I am doing the Tanky End Game Set Up. I have 2,740 energy shield and 6,035 HP. I am getting one shot by things in Tier 12 maps. I have 11 zombies. 4 spectres and the stone golem and animate guardian. There is simply no way I can do the end game content if I am getting one shot by things in a tier 12 map. I cant even do the 1st Sirus fight at Awakener Level 5. So what the fuck honestly? I have copied basically all the gear. I have the mace. I have all the gems except the one you can only get from number 1 in Uber Lab rankings. I have different boots I am using the alberath. I have shapers touch and of course the baron helmet. I have death attunement. I have Geofreys Sanctuary. I am at 1000 plus like 50 strength. I have all the flasks. I have avians might. I do not have the awakener skill gems. How can I ever afford them if I cant even do tier 12 maps without dying quite instantly I might add. When I die. I die immediately. I have vaal molten shell and yes I use it along with molten shell. I am at a loss here really

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BGRateful wrote:

Hey So I am doing the Tanky End Game Set Up. I have 2,740 energy shield and 6,035 HP. I am getting one shot by things in Tier 12 maps. I have 11 zombies. 4 spectres and the stone golem and animate guardian. There is simply no way I can do the end game content if I am getting one shot by things in a tier 12 map. I cant even do the 1st Sirus fight at Awakener Level 5. So what the fuck honestly? I have copied basically all the gear. I have the mace. I have all the gems except the one you can only get from number 1 in Uber Lab rankings. I have different boots I am using the alberath. I have shapers touch and of course the baron helmet. I have death attunement. I have Geofreys Sanctuary. I am at 1000 plus like 50 strength. I have all the flasks. I have avians might. I do not have the awakener skill gems. How can I ever afford them if I cant even do tier 12 maps without dying quite instantly I might add. When I die. I die immediately. I have vaal molten shell and yes I use it along with molten shell. I am at a loss here really

Are you sure you're copying the build? I have worse versions of many of the pieces and I still have almost 4k ES. With that said, even though I can clear t16 maps, there's still stuff in t10 maps that can kill me if I'm careless... I don't think you can ever get so tanky you can just ignore whatever maps throw at you.

One thing I have found very helpful in clearing harder content is putting summon skeletons in the 6th socket of the weapon (in place of minion speed). They have a much more aggressive AI than zombies, they double the size of your army, and being able to cast them into packs of mobs helps keep you more out of harms way. I cant run aspect of the avian or flesh and stone, cause I have to have some mana to cast the skels, but I think it still ends up being more dps because you have a much bigger army (also, you don't just lose fights if your zombies die). To make up for the drop from not having flesh and stone, I did add the Vulnerability curse, which I don't have to use too often as most things die pretty quick without it. A slight bonus is that since I'm only running PoE, Disc and Dread Banner, I really don't need Enlighten support anymore.

Also, what spectres are you using? I find the Solar Guards are a great safe option, as they'll blast stuff as soon as it shows on screen, and will kill ranged mobs much faster (since they don't have to go through the melee ones first like the zombs and skels do). When I use Solar Guards I drop blood magic support (not needed unless you're using the chieftans), and move animate guardian and meat shield support to my gloves (meat shield support causes them to be way too passive), and then pop in spell echo, GMP, and then i've been toying with various options for the 4th link.

Yeah I have plenty of mana. Im certain I have all the proper gear. Yeah I thought about using skeletons because I can have like 10. I dont like that they dont answer to convocation. I bought a 21 level quality 20 and yeah its alright. I dont like that they only have so long on the duration. And the minion speed is kind of important. I think that basically even though my minions are basically doing a million dps they arent hitting or something because the clear on even tier 12 is like ehhh

I am using the Host Chieftain and the Carnage Chieftain due to the fact it gives minions power and frenzy charges which is actually insane

I really think this is minion accuracy rating issue honestly. I could be wrong

We have similar gear but our passive trees differ quite a bit, so I'm thinking that may be the issue since I can do T16's without issue (with the rare death coming from a pack of caster mobs in a Vaal side area or standing still for more than a second in Delirium) with good DPS (around 1mil per Zombie). Though I also failed on A5 Sirus due to not knowing the fight and being unable to handle the visual vomit of final phase.

A couple quick things I would do:
Utmost Might is unallocated in your passive tree, that's a huge boost to Str and I'd drop a point elsewhere to grab it or wait until leveling if you're close.
Also you've got an Unset Ring with an open socket. I'd either put Vaal Summon Skeletons or Frostblink/Flame Dash there.
Replace the Increased Duration in your gloves with Generosity.
Getting a Watcher's Eye with +% Chaos Res while affected by Purity of Elements is nice to have once you can afford it.
Quality your Blood of the Karui flask, Glassblower Bauble's are very cheap.
Your Granite Flask isn't doing anything besides curing Curses. I'm assuming you're Resist capped, but if you aren't, I'd replace your Granite Flask with a Bismuth Flask of Warding, last time I checked they were pretty cheap. If you are Resist capped though, I'd still swap the flasks and then also swap Commander of Darkness ascendancy for Bone Barrier.

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BGRateful wrote:

Yeah I have plenty of mana. Im certain I have all the proper gear. Yeah I thought about using skeletons because I can have like 10. I dont like that they dont answer to convocation. I bought a 21 level quality 20 and yeah its alright. I dont like that they only have so long on the duration. And the minion speed is kind of important. I think that basically even though my minions are basically doing a million dps they arent hitting or something because the clear on even tier 12 is like ehhh

Oh, i just looked at your profile, you have no ES on your rings, belt or amulet, that's why its low. With all the strength and shaper's touch, it scales something like 5 to 1, so I would try to pick some up, or craft some on. Because of Geoffry's sanctuary converting the %max hp regen to ES, raising your ES will make the build feel a lot better I think. Also, maybe it doesn't seem like it, but his rings/belt/amulet/boots are waaaaaay better than what we have, and are providing him with a lot of extra str, life and es (I think he's around 13-14k life+es)

I think the issue on the clear is that with a combination of zombies, and spectres and guardian linked to meat shield, almost all of your minions are defensive (aside from golem, which doesn't have good dps). That means you have to be running into/through the mobs to get your guys to kill them (which is what the OP does if you watch his videos), but that's hard to do until you get a large life/es pool.

You could try putting feeding frenzy to support the zombies to make them more aggressive? If your problems are getting one shot, and your zombies not doing enough damage, I think you can forgo the speed for now. Honestly though, if you're only doing t12 I would just lean on Solar Guard spectres... at level 25, with support gems, they basically delete the screen up to like t15.

Maybe it's accuracy rating... but if you're getting the passives that increase it you should be fine...

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Fudsduds wrote:

We have similar gear but our passive trees differ quite a bit, so I'm thinking that may be the issue since I can do T16's without issue (with the rare death coming from a pack of caster mobs in a Vaal side area or standing still for more than a second in Delirium) with good DPS (around 1mil per Zombie). Though I also failed on A5 Sirus due to not knowing the fight and being unable to handle the visual vomit of final phase.

I can totally relate, I've had such a hard time with Sirus... I feel like my character is definitely strong enough as I get through the first couple of phases super quick, but then yeah, I just can't tell wtf is happening on screen after that.

Him and Minotaur... I can't figure out what to do on Minotaur. Everything else I've been fine with so far.

Thanks for all the tips guys I really appreciate it. And I hope yall are doing alright. I think I have some better ideas about what I can do with what I have to make this build a little better than before. As I said thanks and much appreciated.

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BGRateful wrote:

Hey So I am doing the Tanky End Game Set Up. I have 2,740 energy shield and 6,035 HP. I am getting one shot by things in Tier 12 maps. I have 11 zombies. 4 spectres and the stone golem and animate guardian. There is simply no way I can do the end game content if I am getting one shot by things in a tier 12 map. I cant even do the 1st Sirus fight at Awakener Level 5. So what the fuck honestly? I have copied basically all the gear. I have the mace. I have all the gems except the one you can only get from number 1 in Uber Lab rankings. I have different boots I am using the alberath. I have shapers touch and of course the baron helmet. I have death attunement. I have Geofreys Sanctuary. I am at 1000 plus like 50 strength. I have all the flasks. I have avians might. I do not have the awakener skill gems. How can I ever afford them if I cant even do tier 12 maps without dying quite instantly I might add. When I die. I die immediately. I have vaal molten shell and yes I use it along with molten shell. I am at a loss here really

I also felt a little weak with this build in the begining, Now i'm doing everything pretty much deathless. No issue with delirum 20 at all. A huge upgrade is to invest in cluster jewels. you can check out some of mine for an example. GL HF