[3.11]QUEEN OF NECROMANCY - STRONGEST ZOMBIES EVER? 55M+ DPS 7K+ LIFE MAX BLOCK 90% CHAOS RES

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hitmantb wrote:
When does this build feel unkillable? I am coming from a mana guardian and first T14 map, I died four times.

I have 5000 HP, 1500 energy shield without spirit offering. Crafted the mace.

Only 1200 strength for now, didn't expect to die so fast on T14. I thought this is a one button cyclone build and I wasn't trying to cyclone into mobs either . . .

Resists are capped, maybe I need to get more chaos resistance? Or maybe I should just use the same gear on baron guardian.


Your eHP is pretty low. I assume you will be switching your Guardian’s gear to your Necro. You’ll want to swap all your mana gear to life, and there are several relatively expensive upgrades still to do. Your primary “unkillable” nature comes in recovering (get it instantly) 15% max life as ES every .7 seconds. That’s more ES than you get from your mana. Combine it with some of the highest natural defenses I’ve seen in the game...

For most hits my physical resistance is maxed, less against big hits due to armour scaling. 77/76/76 elemental resists. ~23% evade (over 60% if enemies are blinded, and over 80% if I were to throw in a Jade flask with 100% evade). That’s coming from my 3.8 Necro. Realizing that I could survive a Shaper slam with virtually 0% risk of dying is kind of ridiculous. 3.9 is building even tankier.

You really only struggle against chaos damage, but resists fix that.

On a side note, I’ve been wondering about how effective it would be to replace Saqawal’s with crafted Elder/Hunter Astral Plate
- life
- +1 zombie
- Hunter slam (not really sure, but gotta do something)
- 12% strength (roll)
- 25% increased effect of offerings (roll)
- 3 crafted mods

It would also mean looking back into Leash of Oblation, though overall I’m guessing both wouldn’t be worth it. The 25% bonus would negate the -25% from MoS.
Last edited by Aldonés#1294 on Feb 4, 2020, 11:17:44 PM
Any reason not to go with 2h axe as a craft base? Just because the chance to hit +1 level is lower on axes?
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blackdeath101 wrote:
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kebal wrote:
Sorry I'm looking at Qlida profile and I can't see a single item with Fire resistance, only boots with 12%, how come would reach the cap? I don't understand... Even with purity of elements and ascendancy you're not even close to 75%....


PoB numbers:

Purity of Elements - 29%
Various passives - 27%
Bone Barrier - 30% with 10 minions (manually added)
4 endurance charges - 16%
Boots - 12%
Spirit Offering - 23%

77% fire res, so 1 over the 76 max with everything up.


Looking at the profiles of most individuals, I'd have to beg the question in regard to where the resists are coming from as well. The PoB doesn't reflect what some others are actually doing.
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On a flip side things are going nicely, I've gotten one-shot a few times in crazy t15-16 map mods, but I can do them adequately if I'm on my best guard and armor+ Molten Shell spam. Should acquiring the weapon be the first thing I put my attention to? And if so, I'll just have to save up and buy one because getting the base isn't cheap.
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blackdeath101 wrote:
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kebal wrote:
Sorry I'm looking at Qlida profile and I can't see a single item with Fire resistance, only boots with 12%, how come would reach the cap? I don't understand... Even with purity of elements and ascendancy you're not even close to 75%....


PoB numbers:

Purity of Elements - 29%
Various passives - 27%
Bone Barrier - 30% with 10 minions (manually added)
4 endurance charges - 16%
Boots - 12%
Spirit Offering - 23%

77% fire res, so 1 over the 76 max with everything up.


Or possible effect from a lethal pride.. Got one with 2x 5% str and +20% fire res.. A bit of a waste but not totally useless and right now I'm satisfied with the 2x 5%.

What is the point of using enduring cry. It doesn't automatically trigger with leap slam and trash dies almost instantly. On a boss you wouldn't have any charges from it either.

Last edited by Zweetsok#4583 on Feb 5, 2020, 2:10:14 AM
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LuckHasFallen wrote:
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blackdeath101 wrote:
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kebal wrote:
Sorry I'm looking at Qlida profile and I can't see a single item with Fire resistance, only boots with 12%, how come would reach the cap? I don't understand... Even with purity of elements and ascendancy you're not even close to 75%....


PoB numbers:

Purity of Elements - 29%
Various passives - 27%
Bone Barrier - 30% with 10 minions (manually added)
4 endurance charges - 16%
Boots - 12%
Spirit Offering - 23%

77% fire res, so 1 over the 76 max with everything up.


Looking at the profiles of most individuals, I'd have to beg the question in regard to where the resists are coming from as well. The PoB doesn't reflect what some others are actually doing.


It's best to aim for 77/76/76 before spirit offering procs or you're going to have a pretty rough time in elem weakness maps on awakener 8.
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Zweetsok wrote:
What is the point of using enduring cry. It doesn't automatically trigger with leap slam and trash dies almost instantly. On a boss you wouldn't have any charges from it either.


It’s a hassle, but even 3 endurance charges is significant, 12% additional physical reduction and 12% all elemental resistance. Armour is nice for many small hits, but it does very little against large hits. Enduring Cry on its own will grant a minimum of 1 charge, so you can keep it up on bosses easily enough. Trash dying quickly doesn’t mean you won’t run into a Timeless Monolith or something and end up running into something nasty with your zombies engaged elsewhere.
Also, to follow up with my last question (in regards to the weapon) from my previous post; would it be beneficial for me to drop Dread banner since I can't use impale yet, and replace with carrion golem - frenzy - maim ? If so should I replace Frenzy from the zombies and add something like meat shield? Or keep it for the % more damage?
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LuckHasFallen wrote:
Also, to follow up with my last question (in regards to the weapon) from my previous post; would it be beneficial for me to drop Dread banner since I can't use impale yet, and replace with carrion golem - frenzy - maim ? If so should I replace Frenzy from the zombies and add something like meat shield? Or keep it for the % more damage?
Yes, this golem link will give you more damage than banner on its own (without helmet enchantment and high quality leveled impale gem) and in the freed socket in the weapon put impale. Also replace empower by melee physical damage. It's useless in femurs, especially in 5 link. Do not level desecrate or you're risking to die from corpses you spawn. And you'll still have an extra socket for the banner in the end.

Also if you can't afford a well rolled Saqawal's Nest, then use Geofri's Sanctuary at least. It'll give you much more ehp than belly.
Last edited by DocRoberts#4869 on Feb 5, 2020, 1:00:19 PM
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LegendaryMewtwo wrote:
It's best to aim for 77/76/76 before spirit offering procs or you're going to have a pretty rough time in elem weakness maps on awakener 8.
Or you can just use a flask with curse immunity (and not enduring mana flask which doesn't work half the time for some unknown reason)

But with bad gear and slow clear speed, I'd also suggest to have overcapped resistances.
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DocRoberts wrote:
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LuckHasFallen wrote:
Also, to follow up with my last question (in regards to the weapon) from my previous post; would it be beneficial for me to drop Dread banner since I can't use impale yet, and replace with carrion golem - frenzy - maim ? If so should I replace Frenzy from the zombies and add something like meat shield? Or keep it for the % more damage?
Yes, this golem link will give you more damage than banner on its own (without helmet enchantment and high quality leveled impale gem) and in the freed socket in the weapon put impale. Also replace empower by melee physical damage. It's useless in femurs, especially in 5 link. Do not level desecrate or you're risking to die from corpses you spawn. And you'll still have an extra socket for the banner in the end.

Also if you can't afford a well rolled Saqawal's Nest, then use Geofri's Sanctuary at least. It'll give you much more ehp than belly.


Thank you, I appreciate your wisdom greatly. I'll pop back in if I have any further questions.

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