[3.11]QUEEN OF NECROMANCY - STRONGEST ZOMBIES EVER? 55M+ DPS 7K+ LIFE MAX BLOCK 90% CHAOS RES

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hankinsohl wrote:
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suedlichdesgensis wrote:

That's not MY problem. I got the Maim + 1 socketed gems in like 350 alts.

The problem is that i can't get the Annulment step to work.

I'm not "complaining" i was just asking for an alternative to this since i've had bad luck using the crafting method.

I'll just keep trying until it works

>> That's not MY problem.
I'm confused by your response. You're (apparently) dissatisfied with the imprint method of crafting because your annulment orbs have so far failed to remove the bad mod and you've asked for an alternative crafting method to avoid this step (if I've misinterpreted your post let me know).

An alternative method to craft your weapon has been outlined which does not use the annulment step at all - but has a chance of failure nonetheless.

Seems to me that this alternative method fits your request exactly... the "That's not MY problem" remark leaves me puzzled.







Ah. No you are correct i woke up like 4 minutes ago and i'm absolutly confused.

Anyways.. a friend just annuled it for me.
It worked.
GGWP.

Thanks for your response btw sorry that i failed to understand what you wrote.
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Msciwoj wrote:
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hankinsohl wrote:

The raw data used by poedb is supposedly datamined - unless these datamined values aren't actually used by the game or unless some sort of other hidden math is going on (which is all very possible) - I'm inclined to believe poedb.

My original results were too optimistic as I somehow left off some prefix weighting.

Odds of rolling prefix: 1-in-34
Odds of rolling either of two suffixes: 1-in-45
Odds of rolling desired affixes: 1-in-1540 ranging to 1-in-1690 depending on ilvl

Calcs/data I used in case someone wants to double check:
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Squire's 1 (15–19)% increased Physical Damage +(16–20) to Accuracy Rating 1000
Journeyman's 11 (20–24)% increased Physical Damage +(21–46) to Accuracy Rating 1000
Reaver's 23 (25–34)% increased Physical Damage +(47–72) to Accuracy Rating 1000
Mercenary's 35 (35–44)% increased Physical Damage +(73–97) to Accuracy Rating 400
Champion's 46 (45–54)% increased Physical Damage +(98–123) to Accuracy Rating 200
Conqueror's 60 (55–64)% increased Physical Damage +(124–149) to Accuracy Rating 100
Emperor's 73 (65–74)% increased Physical Damage +(150–174) to Accuracy Rating 50
3750

Heavy 1 (40–49)% increased Physical Damage 1000
Serrated 11 (50–64)% increased Physical Damage 1000
Wicked 23 (65–84)% increased Physical Damage 1000
Vicious 35 (85–109)% increased Physical Damage 400
Bloodthirsty 46 (110–134)% increased Physical Damage 200
Cruel 60 (135–154)% increased Physical Damage 100
Tyrannical 73 (155–169)% increased Physical Damage 50
3750

Glinting 2 Adds 2 to (4–5) Physical Damage 1000
Burnished 13 Adds (6–8) to (13–14) Physical Damage 1000
Polished 21 Adds (10–13) to (21–24) Physical Damage 1000
Honed 29 Adds (11–18) to (26–30) Physical Damage 1000
Gleaming 36 Adds (14–21) to (32–38) Physical Damage 1000
Annealed 46 Adds (21–27) to (42–48) Physical Damage 800
Razor-sharp 54 Adds (22–30) to (46–56) Physical Damage 600
Tempered 65 Adds (27–38) to (58–66) Physical Damage 400
6800

Heated 1 Adds (3–4) to (5–6) Fire Damage 500
Smouldering 11 Adds (13–16) to (24–29) Fire Damage 500
Smoking 18 Adds (19–26) to (38–45) Fire Damage 500
Burning 26 Adds (27–35) to (53–62) Fire Damage 500
Flaming 33 Adds (34–45) to (67–78) Fire Damage 500
Scorching 42 Adds (42–56) to (85–98) Fire Damage 500
Incinerating 51 Adds (51–67) to (101–118) Fire Damage 500
Blasting 62 Adds (67–90) to (135–156) Fire Damage 400
Cremating 74 Adds (94–127) to (190–221) Fire Damage 175
4075

Frosted 2 Adds (2–3) to (5–6) Cold Damage 500
Chilled 12 Adds (11–14) to (22–26) Cold Damage 500
Icy 19 Adds (18–22) to (35–40) Cold Damage 500
Frigid 27 Adds (24–32) to (48–56) Cold Damage 500
Freezing 34 Adds (30–40) to (61–70) Cold Damage 500
Frozen 43 Adds (37–51) to (77–88) Cold Damage 500
Glaciated 52 Adds (46–61) to (91–107) Cold Damage 500
Polar 63 Adds (59–81) to (121–141) Cold Damage 400
Entombing 75 Adds (86–114) to (170–198) Cold Damage 175
4075


Humming 3 Adds 2 to (8–10) Lightning Damage 500
Buzzing 13 Adds 3 to (40–46) Lightning Damage 500
Snapping 19 Adds (2–6) to (64–72) Lightning Damage 500
Crackling 31 Adds (3–8) to (88–101) Lightning Damage 500
Sparking 34 Adds (3–10) to (112–126) Lightning Damage 500
Arcing 42 Adds (5–13) to (142–158) Lightning Damage 500
Shocking 51 Adds (5–14) to (168–192) Lightning Damage 500
Discharging 63 Adds (7–20) to (227–253) Lightning Damage 400
Electrocuting 74 Adds (10–27) to (316–358) Lightning Damage 175
4075

Catalysing 4 (5–10)% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills 300
Infusing 15 (11–20)% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills 300
Empowering 30 (21–30)% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills 300
Unleashed 60 (31–37)% increased Elemental Damage with Attack Skills 300
1200

Paragon's 50 +1 to Level of Socketed Gems 1000
1000

Combatant's 8 +1 to Level of Socketed Melee Gems 1000
Weaponmaster's 63 +2 to Level of Socketed Melee Gems 1000
2000

Remora's 50 (0.2–0.4)% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Life 1000
Lamprey's 60 (0.6–0.8)% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Life 500
Vampire's 70 (1–1.2)% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Life 250
1750

Thirsty 50 (0.2–0.4)% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Mana 1000
1000

The Shaper's 68 Adds (2–3) to (4–5) Fire Damage to Attacks with this Weapon per 10 Strength 200
The Shaper's 68 Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 18 Cast On Melee Kill 250
The Shaper's 75 Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Cast On Melee Kill 250
700

Total prefix: 3750 + 3750 + 6800 + 4075 + 4075 + 4075 + 1200 + 1000 + 2000 + 1750 + 1000 + 700 = 34175
Chance of +1 to socketed gems: 1000/34175 = 0.0293

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of the Brute 1 +(8–12) to Strength 1000
of the Wrestler 11 +(13–17) to Strength 1000
of the Bear 22 +(18–22) to Strength 1000
of the Lion 33 +(23–27) to Strength 1000
of the Gorilla 44 +(28–32) to Strength 1000
of the Goliath 55 +(33–37) to Strength 1000
of the Leviathan 66 +(38–42) to Strength 1000
of the Titan 74 +(43–50) to Strength 1000
8000

of Skill 1 (5–7)% increased Attack Speed 1000
of Ease 11 (8–10)% increased Attack Speed 1000
of Mastery 22 (11–13)% increased Attack Speed 1000
of Renown 30 (14–16)% increased Attack Speed 1000
of Acclaim 37 (17–19)% increased Attack Speed 1000
of Fame 45 (20–22)% increased Attack Speed 1000
of Infamy 60 (23–25)% increased Attack Speed 1000
7000

of the Pugilist 5 (5–7)% reduced Enemy Stun Threshold 1000
of the Brawler 20 (8–9)% reduced Enemy Stun Threshold 1000
of the Boxer 30 (10–11)% reduced Enemy Stun Threshold 1000
of the Combatant 44 (12–13)% reduced Enemy Stun Threshold 1000
of the Gladiator 58 (14–15)% reduced Enemy Stun Threshold 1000
5000

of the Whelpling 1 +(6–11)% to Fire Resistance 500
of the Salamander 12 +(12–17)% to Fire Resistance 500
of the Drake 24 +(18–23)% to Fire Resistance 500
of the Kiln 36 +(24–29)% to Fire Resistance 500
of the Furnace 48 +(30–35)% to Fire Resistance 500
of the Volcano 60 +(36–41)% to Fire Resistance 500
of the Magma 72 +(42–45)% to Fire Resistance 500
3500

of the Inuit 1 +(6–11)% to Cold Resistance 500
of the Seal 14 +(12–17)% to Cold Resistance 500
of the Penguin 26 +(18–23)% to Cold Resistance 500
of the Yeti 38 +(24–29)% to Cold Resistance 500
of the Walrus 50 +(30–35)% to Cold Resistance 500
of the Polar Bear 60 +(36–41)% to Cold Resistance 500
of the Ice 72 +(42–45)% to Cold Resistance 500
3500

of the Cloud 1 +(6–11)% to Lightning Resistance 500
of the Squall 13 +(12–17)% to Lightning Resistance 500
of the Storm 25 +(18–23)% to Lightning Resistance 500
of the Thunderhead 37 +(24–29)% to Lightning Resistance 500
of the Tempest 49 +(30–35)% to Lightning Resistance 500
of the Maelstrom 60 +(36–41)% to Lightning Resistance 500
of the Lightning 72 +(42–45)% to Lightning Resistance 500
3500

of the Lost 16 +(5–10)% to Chaos Resistance 125
of Banishment 30 +(11–15)% to Chaos Resistance 125
of Eviction 44 +(16–20)% to Chaos Resistance 125
of Expulsion 56 +(21–25)% to Chaos Resistance 125
of Exile 65 +(26–30)% to Chaos Resistance 125
625

of Impact 5 (11–15)% increased Stun Duration on Enemies 1000
of Dazing 18 (16–20)% increased Stun Duration on Enemies 1000
of Stunning 30 (21–25)% increased Stun Duration on Enemies 1000
of Slamming 44 (26–30)% increased Stun Duration on Enemies 1000
of Staggering 58 (31–35)% increased Stun Duration on Enemies 1000
5000

of Rejuvenation 8 +2 Life gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks 1000
of Restoration 20 +3 Life gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks 1000
of Regrowth 30 +4 Life gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks 1000
of Nourishment 40 +5 Life gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks 1000
4000

of Success 1 +(3–6) Life gained on Kill 1000
of Victory 23 +(7–10) Life gained on Kill 1000
of Triumph 40 +(11–14) Life gained on Kill 1000
3000

of Absorption 1 +1 Mana gained on Kill 1000
of Osmosis 24 +(2–3) Mana gained on Kill 1000
of Consumption 40 +(4–6) Mana gained on Kill 1000
3000

of Needling 1 (10–14)% increased Critical Strike Chance 1000
of Stinging 20 (15–19)% increased Critical Strike Chance 1000
of Piercing 30 (20–24)% increased Critical Strike Chance 1000
of Puncturing 44 (25–29)% increased Critical Strike Chance 1000
of Penetrating 59 (30–34)% increased Critical Strike Chance 1000
of Incision 73 (35–38)% increased Critical Strike Chance 1000
6000

of Ire 8 +(10–14)% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier 1000
of Anger 21 +(15–19)% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier 1000
of Rage 30 +(20–24)% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier 1000
of Fury 44 +(25–29)% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier 1000
of Ferocity 59 +(30–34)% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier 1000
of Destruction 73 +(35–38)% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier 1000
6000

of Steadiness 1 +(80–130) to Accuracy Rating 1000
of Precision 20 +(131–215) to Accuracy Rating 1000
of the Sniper 40 +(216–325) to Accuracy Rating 1000
of the Marksman 60 +(326–455) to Accuracy Rating 1000
of the Ranger 75 +(456–624) to Accuracy Rating 1000
5000

of the Worthy 36 18% reduced Attribute Requirements 1000
of the Apt 60 32% reduced Attribute Requirements 1000
2000

of Radiance 30 15% increased Light Radius
(16–20)% increased Global Accuracy Rating 500
of Shining 8 5% increased Light Radius
(9–11)% increased Global Accuracy Rating 500
of Light 15 10% increased Light Radius
(12–15)% increased Global Accuracy Rating 500
1500

of Agony 30 (8–12)% increased Bleeding Duration 2000
of Torment 60 (13–18)% increased Bleeding Duration 600
2600

of Bleeding 15 10% chance to cause Bleeding on Hit 2000
of Flaying 55 15% chance to cause Bleeding on Hit 1000
3000

of Bloodletting 20 (21–25)% increased Damage with Bleeding 3000
of Haemophilia 40 (26–30)% increased Damage with Bleeding 3000
of Exsanguination 60 (31–35)% increased Damage with Bleeding 1000
7000

of Shaping 68 (17–19)% increased Attack Speed
20% chance to deal Double Damage 1000
of Shaping 75 (20–21)% increased Attack Speed
20% chance to deal Double Damage 1000
2000

of Shaping 68 (22–25)% increased Critical Strike Chance
50% increased Critical Strike Chance if you have Killed Recently 1000
of Shaping 75 (26–29)% increased Critical Strike Chance
50% increased Critical Strike Chance if you have Killed Recently 1000
2000

of Shaping 68 15% chance to Maim on Hit
Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 18 Maim 1000
of Shaping 75 20% chance to Maim on Hit
Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Maim 1000
2000

of Shaping 68 Damage Penetrates (5–6)% Elemental Resistances 1000
of Shaping 75 Damage Penetrates (7–8)% Elemental Resistances 1000
2000

of Shaping 75 (3–6)% increased Movement Speed 1000
1000

of Shaping 68 Enemies killed explode dealing 5% of their Life as Fire Damage 1000
1000

of Shaping 68 (20–30)% increased Stun Duration on Enemies
(20–30)% reduced Enemy Stun Threshold 1000
1000

Total suffix: 8000 + 7000 + 5000 + 3500 + 3500 + 3500 + 625 + 5000 + 4000 + 3000 + 3000 + 6000 + 6000 + 5000 + 2000 + 1500 + 2600 + 3000 + 7000 + 2000 + 2000 + 2000 + 2000 + 1000 + 1000 + 1000 =
90225
Chance of either maim: 2000/90225 = 0.0222

Chance to roll desired mods: 1000/34175 x 2000/90225 = about 1-in-1540

For high ilvl weapon, you pick up an additional 935 weight for prefix and 6125 weight for suffix
Odds for high ilvl weapon are: 1000/35110 x 2000/96350 = about 1-in-1690




This agrees with my calculation exactly, because I assumed we only want Maim level 20. If we are also happy with level 18, the probability goes up by a factor of 2. So these are the same numbers I got.

Cheers.

Beats me how I screwed up the weighting of the +1 to gems prefix in my original post...

But glad to see that we have some data that can likely be relied upon - modulo some sort of unanticipated probablility formula actually in use by GGG.

As an aside...

I find it remarkable that the datamined values are - I'm guessing, unless POEDB somehow has access to sever-side code - available at all - presumably datamined from client-side code.

Client-side crafting outcomes (if that's what's actually going on) seems fraught with the potential for mischief - and if the calculation is actually done sever-side, why does the client contain this data?

Bug? Sloppy coding? Non-optimal build process?... Who knows?...
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Out of curiosity, does your GGG name, beginning with the letters "MSC" have anything to do with Microsoft?

Just curious - especially so, as I formerly hail from that company.
Last edited by hankinsohl#1231 on Sep 26, 2019, 12:08:40 PM
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suedlichdesgensis wrote:
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hankinsohl wrote:
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suedlichdesgensis wrote:

That's not MY problem. I got the Maim + 1 socketed gems in like 350 alts.

The problem is that i can't get the Annulment step to work.

I'm not "complaining" i was just asking for an alternative to this since i've had bad luck using the crafting method.

I'll just keep trying until it works

>> That's not MY problem.
I'm confused by your response. You're (apparently) dissatisfied with the imprint method of crafting because your annulment orbs have so far failed to remove the bad mod and you've asked for an alternative crafting method to avoid this step (if I've misinterpreted your post let me know).

An alternative method to craft your weapon has been outlined which does not use the annulment step at all - but has a chance of failure nonetheless.

Seems to me that this alternative method fits your request exactly... the "That's not MY problem" remark leaves me puzzled.







Ah. No you are correct i woke up like 4 minutes ago and i'm absolutly confused.

Anyways.. a friend just annuled it for me.
It worked.
GGWP.

Thanks for your response btw sorry that i failed to understand what you wrote.

No worries. Glad to read that you've managed to overcome the RNG hurdle.
Is it worth using one Violent Dead for a standard version of the build ?
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konigreich wrote:
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hankinsohl wrote:
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konigreich wrote:

I think it is possible to use in this build bow variation with juicy stats from quiver.

Haha... Looks as if you've implemented something I'm working on for fun:



I'm hoping to craft movement speed on the bow... but if that gets too hard I like the fossil craft you've rolled.

You can try craft Corroded + Prismatic + Serrated + Shuddering Fossils. I already closed all content with this bow.


Its impossible to craft this way
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100000/36 = over 2000 attempts (12000 chaos) on average
Last edited by ActiveSlay#7791 on Sep 26, 2019, 12:24:28 PM
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Aias_o_Telamonios wrote:
Since we're discussing crafting, this can be easily crafted with minimal RNG at less than 5ex. The damage it gives is 25% less than the ideal weapon. I used a staff base because the implicit is actually useful.

I’m confused why you went that route. An Elder staff can grant Fortify as a 7th link at the cost of minion damage/life craft, and regular staves can give +2 to spell gems instead of +1 to socketed. I suppose it’s cheaper only going 1 stat. I agree the implicit is very useful, and when crafting my mace it seemed +2 to melee gems came up more often than +1 to socketed, so I don’t know how a staff would have compared.
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vadash wrote:

He is proper way to do it
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As u can see 3 fossils is a way to go. Estimated cost to hit = 20*22=440chaos

Not quite sure what I'm looking at...

Anyhow, to be clear:

I want to craft a rare bow with +1 gems and 7-10% movement speed. I do not want any other mods on the bow so that I can proceed with multimod.

My guess is that I'm best off trying to alt both desired mods on a magic bow, and then going the regal/annul route.

If you have a better method in mind, let me know.
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hankinsohl wrote:
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vadash wrote:

He is proper way to do it
Spoiler

As u can see 3 fossils is a way to go. Estimated cost to hit = 20*22=440chaos

Not quite sure what I'm looking at...

Anyhow, to be clear:

I want to craft a rare bow with +1 gems and 7-10% movement speed. I do not want any other mods on the bow so that I can proceed with multimod.

My guess is that I'm best off trying to alt both desired mods on a magic bow, and then going the regal/annul route.

If you have a better method in mind, let me know.

I edited post a bit to show average craft value for it (12000 chaos).

Here is stat for you
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100000/15/6 = 1111 chaos in alts without regal - annul math (x3)
Last edited by ActiveSlay#7791 on Sep 26, 2019, 12:34:46 PM
Question about lethal pride :

i hit this on my 1st divine:

redemption : 5% str
faith and steel : 5% str ( i need to allocate to get it, right ? )
righteous army : 5% str
36 flat str on minor nodes

is this a good roll? :)
Enduring Cry is pretty good for generating endurance charge. With 20% quality, it pretty much covers more than the entire screen. Only cost 1 gem slot for permanent 3 endurance charge sounds pretty good for me. Also, we can take Endurance node for extra 5% strength if Lethal pride gets that.

+4 endurance charge for 16% physical reduction for only 1 gem slot sounds pertty good. I find it really useful in deeper delve level.
Last edited by jackietran24#7932 on Sep 26, 2019, 1:55:44 PM

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