[3.11]QUEEN OF NECROMANCY - STRONGEST ZOMBIES EVER? 55M+ DPS 7K+ LIFE MAX BLOCK 90% CHAOS RES
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hankinsohl wrote:
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suedlichdesgensis wrote:
That's not MY problem. I got the Maim + 1 socketed gems in like 350 alts.
The problem is that i can't get the Annulment step to work.
I'm not "complaining" i was just asking for an alternative to this since i've had bad luck using the crafting method.
I'll just keep trying until it works
>> That's not MY problem.
I'm confused by your response. You're (apparently) dissatisfied with the imprint method of crafting because your annulment orbs have so far failed to remove the bad mod and you've asked for an alternative crafting method to avoid this step (if I've misinterpreted your post let me know).
An alternative method to craft your weapon has been outlined which does not use the annulment step at all - but has a chance of failure nonetheless.
Seems to me that this alternative method fits your request exactly... the "That's not MY problem" remark leaves me puzzled.
Ah. No you are correct i woke up like 4 minutes ago and i'm absolutly confused.
Anyways.. a friend just annuled it for me.
It worked.
GGWP.
Thanks for your response btw sorry that i failed to understand what you wrote.
The raw data used by poedb is supposedly datamined - unless these datamined values aren't actually used by the game or unless some sort of other hidden math is going on (which is all very possible) - I'm inclined to believe poedb.
My original results were too optimistic as I somehow left off some prefix weighting.
Odds of rolling prefix: 1-in-34
Odds of rolling either of two suffixes: 1-in-45
Odds of rolling desired affixes: 1-in-1540 ranging to 1-in-1690 depending on ilvl
Calcs/data I used in case someone wants to double check:
Glinting 2 Adds 2 to (4–5) Physical Damage 1000
Burnished 13 Adds (6–8) to (13–14) Physical Damage 1000
Polished 21 Adds (10–13) to (21–24) Physical Damage 1000
Honed 29 Adds (11–18) to (26–30) Physical Damage 1000
Gleaming 36 Adds (14–21) to (32–38) Physical Damage 1000
Annealed 46 Adds (21–27) to (42–48) Physical Damage 800
Razor-sharp 54 Adds (22–30) to (46–56) Physical Damage 600
Tempered 65 Adds (27–38) to (58–66) Physical Damage 400
6800
Heated 1 Adds (3–4) to (5–6) Fire Damage 500
Smouldering 11 Adds (13–16) to (24–29) Fire Damage 500
Smoking 18 Adds (19–26) to (38–45) Fire Damage 500
Burning 26 Adds (27–35) to (53–62) Fire Damage 500
Flaming 33 Adds (34–45) to (67–78) Fire Damage 500
Scorching 42 Adds (42–56) to (85–98) Fire Damage 500
Incinerating 51 Adds (51–67) to (101–118) Fire Damage 500
Blasting 62 Adds (67–90) to (135–156) Fire Damage 400
Cremating 74 Adds (94–127) to (190–221) Fire Damage 175
4075
Frosted 2 Adds (2–3) to (5–6) Cold Damage 500
Chilled 12 Adds (11–14) to (22–26) Cold Damage 500
Icy 19 Adds (18–22) to (35–40) Cold Damage 500
Frigid 27 Adds (24–32) to (48–56) Cold Damage 500
Freezing 34 Adds (30–40) to (61–70) Cold Damage 500
Frozen 43 Adds (37–51) to (77–88) Cold Damage 500
Glaciated 52 Adds (46–61) to (91–107) Cold Damage 500
Polar 63 Adds (59–81) to (121–141) Cold Damage 400
Entombing 75 Adds (86–114) to (170–198) Cold Damage 175
4075
Humming 3 Adds 2 to (8–10) Lightning Damage 500
Buzzing 13 Adds 3 to (40–46) Lightning Damage 500
Snapping 19 Adds (2–6) to (64–72) Lightning Damage 500
Crackling 31 Adds (3–8) to (88–101) Lightning Damage 500
Sparking 34 Adds (3–10) to (112–126) Lightning Damage 500
Arcing 42 Adds (5–13) to (142–158) Lightning Damage 500
Shocking 51 Adds (5–14) to (168–192) Lightning Damage 500
Discharging 63 Adds (7–20) to (227–253) Lightning Damage 400
Electrocuting 74 Adds (10–27) to (316–358) Lightning Damage 175
4075
Paragon's 50 +1 to Level of Socketed Gems 1000
1000
Combatant's 8 +1 to Level of Socketed Melee Gems 1000
Weaponmaster's 63 +2 to Level of Socketed Melee Gems 1000
2000
Remora's 50 (0.2–0.4)% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Life 1000
Lamprey's 60 (0.6–0.8)% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Life 500
Vampire's 70 (1–1.2)% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Life 250
1750
Thirsty 50 (0.2–0.4)% of Physical Attack Damage Leeched as Mana 1000
1000
The Shaper's 68 Adds (2–3) to (4–5) Fire Damage to Attacks with this Weapon per 10 Strength 200
The Shaper's 68 Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 18 Cast On Melee Kill 250
The Shaper's 75 Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Cast On Melee Kill 250
700
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of the Brute 1 +(8–12) to Strength 1000
of the Wrestler 11 +(13–17) to Strength 1000
of the Bear 22 +(18–22) to Strength 1000
of the Lion 33 +(23–27) to Strength 1000
of the Gorilla 44 +(28–32) to Strength 1000
of the Goliath 55 +(33–37) to Strength 1000
of the Leviathan 66 +(38–42) to Strength 1000
of the Titan 74 +(43–50) to Strength 1000
8000
of Skill 1 (5–7)% increased Attack Speed 1000
of Ease 11 (8–10)% increased Attack Speed 1000
of Mastery 22 (11–13)% increased Attack Speed 1000
of Renown 30 (14–16)% increased Attack Speed 1000
of Acclaim 37 (17–19)% increased Attack Speed 1000
of Fame 45 (20–22)% increased Attack Speed 1000
of Infamy 60 (23–25)% increased Attack Speed 1000
7000
of the Pugilist 5 (5–7)% reduced Enemy Stun Threshold 1000
of the Brawler 20 (8–9)% reduced Enemy Stun Threshold 1000
of the Boxer 30 (10–11)% reduced Enemy Stun Threshold 1000
of the Combatant 44 (12–13)% reduced Enemy Stun Threshold 1000
of the Gladiator 58 (14–15)% reduced Enemy Stun Threshold 1000
5000
of the Whelpling 1 +(6–11)% to Fire Resistance 500
of the Salamander 12 +(12–17)% to Fire Resistance 500
of the Drake 24 +(18–23)% to Fire Resistance 500
of the Kiln 36 +(24–29)% to Fire Resistance 500
of the Furnace 48 +(30–35)% to Fire Resistance 500
of the Volcano 60 +(36–41)% to Fire Resistance 500
of the Magma 72 +(42–45)% to Fire Resistance 500
3500
of the Inuit 1 +(6–11)% to Cold Resistance 500
of the Seal 14 +(12–17)% to Cold Resistance 500
of the Penguin 26 +(18–23)% to Cold Resistance 500
of the Yeti 38 +(24–29)% to Cold Resistance 500
of the Walrus 50 +(30–35)% to Cold Resistance 500
of the Polar Bear 60 +(36–41)% to Cold Resistance 500
of the Ice 72 +(42–45)% to Cold Resistance 500
3500
of the Cloud 1 +(6–11)% to Lightning Resistance 500
of the Squall 13 +(12–17)% to Lightning Resistance 500
of the Storm 25 +(18–23)% to Lightning Resistance 500
of the Thunderhead 37 +(24–29)% to Lightning Resistance 500
of the Tempest 49 +(30–35)% to Lightning Resistance 500
of the Maelstrom 60 +(36–41)% to Lightning Resistance 500
of the Lightning 72 +(42–45)% to Lightning Resistance 500
3500
of the Lost 16 +(5–10)% to Chaos Resistance 125
of Banishment 30 +(11–15)% to Chaos Resistance 125
of Eviction 44 +(16–20)% to Chaos Resistance 125
of Expulsion 56 +(21–25)% to Chaos Resistance 125
of Exile 65 +(26–30)% to Chaos Resistance 125
625
of Impact 5 (11–15)% increased Stun Duration on Enemies 1000
of Dazing 18 (16–20)% increased Stun Duration on Enemies 1000
of Stunning 30 (21–25)% increased Stun Duration on Enemies 1000
of Slamming 44 (26–30)% increased Stun Duration on Enemies 1000
of Staggering 58 (31–35)% increased Stun Duration on Enemies 1000
5000
of Rejuvenation 8 +2 Life gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks 1000
of Restoration 20 +3 Life gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks 1000
of Regrowth 30 +4 Life gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks 1000
of Nourishment 40 +5 Life gained for each Enemy hit by Attacks 1000
4000
of Success 1 +(3–6) Life gained on Kill 1000
of Victory 23 +(7–10) Life gained on Kill 1000
of Triumph 40 +(11–14) Life gained on Kill 1000
3000
of Absorption 1 +1 Mana gained on Kill 1000
of Osmosis 24 +(2–3) Mana gained on Kill 1000
of Consumption 40 +(4–6) Mana gained on Kill 1000
3000
of Needling 1 (10–14)% increased Critical Strike Chance 1000
of Stinging 20 (15–19)% increased Critical Strike Chance 1000
of Piercing 30 (20–24)% increased Critical Strike Chance 1000
of Puncturing 44 (25–29)% increased Critical Strike Chance 1000
of Penetrating 59 (30–34)% increased Critical Strike Chance 1000
of Incision 73 (35–38)% increased Critical Strike Chance 1000
6000
of Ire 8 +(10–14)% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier 1000
of Anger 21 +(15–19)% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier 1000
of Rage 30 +(20–24)% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier 1000
of Fury 44 +(25–29)% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier 1000
of Ferocity 59 +(30–34)% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier 1000
of Destruction 73 +(35–38)% to Global Critical Strike Multiplier 1000
6000
of Steadiness 1 +(80–130) to Accuracy Rating 1000
of Precision 20 +(131–215) to Accuracy Rating 1000
of the Sniper 40 +(216–325) to Accuracy Rating 1000
of the Marksman 60 +(326–455) to Accuracy Rating 1000
of the Ranger 75 +(456–624) to Accuracy Rating 1000
5000
of the Worthy 36 18% reduced Attribute Requirements 1000
of the Apt 60 32% reduced Attribute Requirements 1000
2000
of Radiance 30 15% increased Light Radius
(16–20)% increased Global Accuracy Rating 500
of Shining 8 5% increased Light Radius
(9–11)% increased Global Accuracy Rating 500
of Light 15 10% increased Light Radius
(12–15)% increased Global Accuracy Rating 500
1500
of Agony 30 (8–12)% increased Bleeding Duration 2000
of Torment 60 (13–18)% increased Bleeding Duration 600
2600
of Bleeding 15 10% chance to cause Bleeding on Hit 2000
of Flaying 55 15% chance to cause Bleeding on Hit 1000
3000
of Bloodletting 20 (21–25)% increased Damage with Bleeding 3000
of Haemophilia 40 (26–30)% increased Damage with Bleeding 3000
of Exsanguination 60 (31–35)% increased Damage with Bleeding 1000
7000
of Shaping 68 (17–19)% increased Attack Speed
20% chance to deal Double Damage 1000
of Shaping 75 (20–21)% increased Attack Speed
20% chance to deal Double Damage 1000
2000
of Shaping 68 (22–25)% increased Critical Strike Chance
50% increased Critical Strike Chance if you have Killed Recently 1000
of Shaping 75 (26–29)% increased Critical Strike Chance
50% increased Critical Strike Chance if you have Killed Recently 1000
2000
of Shaping 68 15% chance to Maim on Hit
Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 18 Maim 1000
of Shaping 75 20% chance to Maim on Hit
Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Maim 1000
2000
of Shaping 68 Damage Penetrates (5–6)% Elemental Resistances 1000
of Shaping 75 Damage Penetrates (7–8)% Elemental Resistances 1000
2000
of Shaping 75 (3–6)% increased Movement Speed 1000
1000
of Shaping 68 Enemies killed explode dealing 5% of their Life as Fire Damage 1000
1000
of Shaping 68 (20–30)% increased Stun Duration on Enemies
(20–30)% reduced Enemy Stun Threshold 1000
1000
Chance to roll desired mods: 1000/34175 x 2000/90225 = about 1-in-1540
For high ilvl weapon, you pick up an additional 935 weight for prefix and 6125 weight for suffix
Odds for high ilvl weapon are: 1000/35110 x 2000/96350 = about 1-in-1690
This agrees with my calculation exactly, because I assumed we only want Maim level 20. If we are also happy with level 18, the probability goes up by a factor of 2. So these are the same numbers I got.
Cheers.
Beats me how I screwed up the weighting of the +1 to gems prefix in my original post...
But glad to see that we have some data that can likely be relied upon - modulo some sort of unanticipated probablility formula actually in use by GGG.
As an aside...
I find it remarkable that the datamined values are - I'm guessing, unless POEDB somehow has access to sever-side code - available at all - presumably datamined from client-side code.
Client-side crafting outcomes (if that's what's actually going on) seems fraught with the potential for mischief - and if the calculation is actually done sever-side, why does the client contain this data?
Bug? Sloppy coding? Non-optimal build process?... Who knows?...
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Out of curiosity, does your GGG name, beginning with the letters "MSC" have anything to do with Microsoft?
Just curious - especially so, as I formerly hail from that company.
Last edited by hankinsohl#1231 on Sep 26, 2019, 12:08:40 PM
That's not MY problem. I got the Maim + 1 socketed gems in like 350 alts.
The problem is that i can't get the Annulment step to work.
I'm not "complaining" i was just asking for an alternative to this since i've had bad luck using the crafting method.
I'll just keep trying until it works
>> That's not MY problem.
I'm confused by your response. You're (apparently) dissatisfied with the imprint method of crafting because your annulment orbs have so far failed to remove the bad mod and you've asked for an alternative crafting method to avoid this step (if I've misinterpreted your post let me know).
An alternative method to craft your weapon has been outlined which does not use the annulment step at all - but has a chance of failure nonetheless.
Seems to me that this alternative method fits your request exactly... the "That's not MY problem" remark leaves me puzzled.
Ah. No you are correct i woke up like 4 minutes ago and i'm absolutly confused.
Anyways.. a friend just annuled it for me.
It worked.
GGWP.
Thanks for your response btw sorry that i failed to understand what you wrote.
No worries. Glad to read that you've managed to overcome the RNG hurdle.
Since we're discussing crafting, this can be easily crafted with minimal RNG at less than 5ex. The damage it gives is 25% less than the ideal weapon. I used a staff base because the implicit is actually useful.
I’m confused why you went that route. An Elder staff can grant Fortify as a 7th link at the cost of minion damage/life craft, and regular staves can give +2 to spell gems instead of +1 to socketed. I suppose it’s cheaper only going 1 stat. I agree the implicit is very useful, and when crafting my mace it seemed +2 to melee gems came up more often than +1 to socketed, so I don’t know how a staff would have compared.
Enduring Cry is pretty good for generating endurance charge. With 20% quality, it pretty much covers more than the entire screen. Only cost 1 gem slot for permanent 3 endurance charge sounds pretty good for me. Also, we can take Endurance node for extra 5% strength if Lethal pride gets that.
+4 endurance charge for 16% physical reduction for only 1 gem slot sounds pertty good. I find it really useful in deeper delve level.
Last edited by jackietran24#7932 on Sep 26, 2019, 1:55:44 PM