[3.21] Vatinas' Spiders + HoP Guardian - CI, 70K armour, 1400 ES on block, millions of DPS
" It can be a pain to use. I can't do it in Ultimatums. Other times, its a balance of Signal Prey the target across the way, get the mobs over there, back into a corner, desecrate, and then pop Spirit Offering if there isn't anything around. It is clunky for sure. And the white guys says, I'll have a Coke then.
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" Defense for more armor or attributes if you have alot of int on your rings for more es both work. |
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Is adding vitality worth compared to holyrelic/feeding frenzy setup? Tt seems you can't have it both at the same time.
Or is it all about dumpin discord artisan on tree and getting more efficient nodes because 233 energy regen doesn't seem worth to me. IGN: LadyAlistra Last edited by Oxygenjunkie#2764 on May 26, 2021, 3:50:57 PM
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" I tried Vitality. The regen is meaningless IMO (and Summon Holy Relic provides regen on its own too). Vitality does help you reserve a little more mana though to maximize Radiant Faith. I find having a half way decent up time on feeding frenzy more worth it but YMMV. I don't use Discord Artisan so I can't speak to that. I am using the following mana reservation with out Discord Artisan. Clarity, HOP, Discipline, Dread Banner, Blood and Stone, and Determination I will need to pick up the Influence branch on the tree once I add in Awakened Multistrike to my HOP to fit it in. Last edited by AndyLovesHisBge#5265 on May 26, 2021, 4:16:17 PM
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" You also might want to work on adding maim to flesh and stone, but it will make harder to squeeze in awakened multistrike as well. How about precision instead of vitality? IGN: LadyAlistra Last edited by Oxygenjunkie#2764 on May 26, 2021, 4:18:34 PM
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" 3gem setup for that is simply waste. I have ran t16 , extremely beefed with max delirium. it took me 10+ mins to finish entire map. Kosis and the other fat guy were very bulky. Anyway , my point was that i got hit once every 1-2 minutes. While holy relic lasted in map ENTIRE 2 seconds before dying. Even with stun its junk. It might work on "normal" maps. Where summon can actually last to make a difference. " Its not entirely known. since pob cant calculate cooldown reduction that gem receives As for vitality , buf isnt high , true. from 150base es regen i went to ~350 es. Not really big thing. Not even for templar big es regen every 4 seconds. However, when u mix that with 2% es regen enchant on boots. It does make a difference. Especially in extremes maps. On top if u have watchers eye with 2% es regen it really changes things. cast on stun or damage taken might only be worth for spirit offering? Since casting it manually is just stupid. Last edited by IceLancerSR#0218 on May 26, 2021, 4:50:37 PM
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Last edited by Chrono_Kun#0292 on May 26, 2021, 4:51:13 PM
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" Which Watcher do you think is best to start ?? Thinking of course, at a low cost and everything .. I currently have + armor with Determination |
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" First Maximum mana as extra ES, give 1.1K ES for me with 6100 mana. After additionnal physical reduction. => Even if you have 90% ESTIMATED physical reduction, the real value is around 30-35% against endgame boss. It's why additionnal physical reduction is not bad. You can use block spell / + armour / regen ... Current watcher : Vitality + this watcher with 10.4K ES and i have 770ES/s, up to 1400 with sulphur flask, work well vs dot. Last edited by dextrelame#4816 on May 26, 2021, 6:05:37 PM
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" I just did some experiments in POB comparing Flesh Offering, Feeding Frenzy and Spirit Offering for DPS. Here are the results: For Sentinels, in order of most DPS: Flesh Offering, Feeding Frenzy, Spirit Offering For Spiders, in order of most DPS: Flesh Offering, Feeding Frenzy, Spirit Offering Flesh Offering was the highest DPS in both cases, followed closely by Feeding Frenzy, and then a bit behind was Spirit Offering. I guess we really benefit from attack speed for our minions which is why Flesh Offering was out in front. Using a Divergent Flesh Offering makes it even stronger (even more attack speed). They are really cheap too!! I just picked up a 16/20 Divergent Flesh Offering for only 13c. Flesh Offering is even more interesting because it only take up 2 gem slots, while Feeding Frenzy needs 3 (I agree with you that using 3 gems for this is a waste). I think I might experiment with Flesh Offering for a while and then if I like it figure out what else to put in the empty slot (I can always go back to Vitality too). Last edited by AndyLovesHisBge#5265 on May 26, 2021, 7:31:46 PM
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