Code of Conduct Changes - Do better at least for optics
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I am bothered by wording, is it real-life politics and religion that is disallowed, and we are free to discuss politics and religion of imaginary/literary works?
Or even fantasy/non-real-life politics and religion is disallowed? Like, we can't discuss warhammer 40k politics and religion? Because by extension, then we wouldn't be allowed to discuss politics and religion of world of path of exile by extension, which is abundant and based on real life models? Spreading salt since 2006
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All topics are inflammatory to somebody, and removal without warning or public display only ensures that nobody knows what is or isn't allowed. There haven't been any topics here that I consider inherently inflammatory, so should I continue posting as before?
Discussing current events in the US, NZ, or otherwise isn't politics or religion. For example, the Christchurch shooter thread was majority apolitical, and it was a good use of the forums for people to mourn there afterward. Should the good be tossed out with the bad in pursuit of... what exactly? What was the impetus for this change? (Is asking for a rationale considered an inflammatory topic?) |
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Its inflamatory if feelings are hurt.
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" There's a certain individual who posts daily random gibberish/troll-bait. And I mean daily, and it's so obvious what he/she/it is doing (though some of them are so nonsensical they're at least funny). Today I commented on one of their routine shitposts, and it got deleted. "Another day, another puddle of brain vomit from this guy." That's all I said, word for word, and it was deleted for making personal attacks against the poster. When I questioned support about it and asked for clarification on how it was attacking the poster rather than attacking the quality of the contents, they didn't give me any reasoning. Just a canned scripted response that I was making personal attacks. Now, if they had told me that the nature of my comment was inflammatory, I would have accepted that. But nowhere did I get personal about it, and nowhere was I attacking anyone. I'm certainly not seeing it anyway. Different people, mods included, have very different interpretations of rules and how to enforce them. What's simply inflammatory? What's a directed personal attack? Under GGG's current guidance, I don't really have a clue. I have a pretty good sense of humor. I'm not German.
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" The change was discussed at length during a team meeting, by our entire Support team. The decision was made last night. We have absolutely no intention of curbing constructive and friendly discussions just for the sake of it - but also, we don't think Path of Exile (the forums or the game chat) is the most appropriate place to be having these passionate and in-depth debates that tend to arise from certain inflammatory subjects. These discussions also have a tendency to make other players unwilling to participate or engage with the forums or in-game chat at all, and this is the opposite of what we want. There's a large number of more appropriate places online to hold these discussions. Regardless of the stance that is being taken on a touchy subject, someone is always going to disagree. We can't fix that (we wouldn't even want to), but we can ask that you take those moral, religious, and political dilemmas to another platform. Another key factor we discussed at length regarding this change is the effect these kinds of topics have on our staff. Forum and game moderation is no easy task and while many players do abide by our Code of Conduct, there are also many players that do not. There are a significant number of really horrible chat and forum postings our team deals with on a daily basis. We hope to significantly reduce the strain on our staff for the benefit of their mental well-being. Contact us at support@grindinggear.com!
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"  You forgot the puppies! I have a pretty good sense of humor. I'm not German.
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"I see what you did there. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted.
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Thanks for explaining @鬼殺し, guess I am too literal when I read it (I rather ask to be safe, despite my common sense), and I bet that down the line in future, there will be people trying to circumvent new/modified Code of conduct in many creative ways.
I am fully aware of "their forum, their rules" and actually don't mind it, as I've barely had a part in any of those discussions anyway. Spreading salt since 2006
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People should have seen it coming. It is like watching a slow motion movie. You have this thought ringing in your head. "When is it coming? When is it coming?"
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If the intention is to allow the community to write down condolences in an safe and protected way, we should build an proper officially recognized single OT-graveyard-thread instead of plastering every corner with an overabundance of corpses and RiP-threads, needless to say we should also offer a wide array of burrialceremonies from tossing em into a swamp, burying them next to stonesculpturs, fire arrows at the ships, tossing the ashes into rivers and incinerating their worldly remains.
People could actively favourisite a certain pagenumber and be easily able to return to the graveyard-thread if additional mourning is in order. A decision will have to be made if it´s ok to also allow the intake of fictional marvel heroes that died recently, illusionary concepts like free-will, speech or liberty, or the other unnamed and never mentioned childs that die in africa every 10seconds according to unicef as a symbol. As a first i would bury the "idea that moderation gets easier if theres less to discuss", in there. +VLFBERHT+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e80qhyovOnA&list=RD_euDhMDDRq4&index=10 |
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