[3.9] Gryph's CI Vortex + Coldsnap Trickster || Uber Elder+Everything Else

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hawok wrote:

I made some changes to the tree and i'm taking area nodes to be able to clear faster and taking away pain attunement and some others.
This league is only maps and bosses and without area the build lacks clear speed.
Other than that i'm in red maps killing everything, Metamorphs included. So nice build Gryphenprey.

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Gryphenprey wrote:

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hawok wrote:

I made some changes to the tree and i'm taking area nodes to be able to clear faster and taking away pain attunement and some others.
This league is only maps and bosses and without area the build lacks clear speed.
Other than that i'm in red maps killing everything, Metamorphs included. So nice build Gryphenprey.

I actually really like when people tweak the build to their own style. I personally never felt I needed extra AOE since I primarily cleared with Cold Snap and try to have a source of physical explosions specifically for mapping Asenath's Touch or i85 Crusader Chest prefix are good ways to get this in league. I was spoiled with Synthesis stuff.

Keep it up!

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SonsOfKorhal wrote:

i've played this build since synthesis, both as trickster and occultists here and there. like what gryphen has said, vortex shouldnt be your primary white mob pack clear skill. he uses cold snap to target the packs and it shatters them easily. i'm also learning to do that more and more.

however, what i've found myself doing in the past leagues is this, weapon swapping to 2 obliteration wands and everything just blows up with vortex for clearing maps. other than that, swap to main wep/shield for bosses.

as an occultist, profane bloom helps as well if you're lazy to do swaps.

other than that, doing what gryphen says - using cold snap on white mob packs seems the fastest hassle free method.

from my past experience, I've also learnt to use vortex to clear white mobs (even without the shatter/bloom). I agree the AoE might be smaller, but you're not exactly looking for a 100% clear so it wasn't an issue for me. it might help if you're phasing/blinking into the pack and using vortex in the middle rather than from the perimeter/edges as well.

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laurent67 wrote:

i have some free socket when did the build, and have a CWDT , and try to put a curse, now i have a bane in, but ask about despair, what are thinking about ?

bane work only 2s , but have a 40-50 more
despair have 9s, but 15-20% increased.

cwdt trigger with 580 dmg

don't really now wich one could be better. i'm only on t13-t14 map, and don't have survive issue, so don't look defensive option for the moment.

have 8700+es.

Spoiler

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hawok wrote:

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SonsOfKorhal wrote:

i've played this build since synthesis, both as trickster and occultists here and there. like what gryphen has said, vortex shouldnt be your primary white mob pack clear skill. he uses cold snap to target the packs and it shatters them easily. i'm also learning to do that more and more.

however, what i've found myself doing in the past leagues is this, weapon swapping to 2 obliteration wands and everything just blows up with vortex for clearing maps. other than that, swap to main wep/shield for bosses.

as an occultist, profane bloom helps as well if you're lazy to do swaps.

other than that, doing what gryphen says - using cold snap on white mob packs seems the fastest hassle free method.

from my past experience, I've also learnt to use vortex to clear white mobs (even without the shatter/bloom). I agree the AoE might be smaller, but you're not exactly looking for a 100% clear so it wasn't an issue for me. it might help if you're phasing/blinking into the pack and using vortex in the middle rather than from the perimeter/edges as well.

I'm using both Cold Snap and Vortex to clean packs because i can use Vortex as ranged skill with the ring, so i alternate between the two cooldowns each white mob pack. I don't need to blink into the pack, thats why i like to use this ring.

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laurent67 wrote:

i have some free socket when did the build, and have a CWDT , and try to put a curse, now i have a bane in, but ask about despair, what are thinking about ?

bane work only 2s , but have a 40-50 more
despair have 9s, but 15-20% increased.

cwdt trigger with 580 dmg

don't really now wich one could be better. i'm only on t13-t14 map, and don't have survive issue, so don't look defensive option for the moment.

have 8700+es.

Spoiler

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iGanc wrote:

Finding a great rhythm by shield charging/dashing and as soon as I see a pack, cold snap them, move past to the next mob, drop a vortex while passing, then cold snap the next and so on. Anyone else in this same type of cadence? Build feels great and having no trouble so far in yellow maps, and doing very well with metamorphs! I have tweaked this build though to incorporate acro/phase acro and I feel like it works well for me. I went full ES as well, which I know is odd... but trying something new!

Thanks for the build Gryph, loving it!