[3.9] Physical Conversion Bowyer | Wander [TS/LA/IS + Barrage] [KB + Power Siphon] [All Content]

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Mexiclapper wrote:

Would you happen to have a high end PoB for a standard wander with some mf?
I got to this point but I don't think most of the items are optimal, I just wanna swap from a windripper to some kb action https://pastebin.com/q0jSWBX2

Hi, how much MF were you planning on running and what is your budget? The setup seems to have gear from an old POB of mine in the mirrored wander guide if I recall correctly. That setup should still more or less be optimized (maybe Power Siphon as the single target skill now). Were you wondering which MF mirrored pieces to buy for maximum DPS + quant? Also what content were you planning on running as MF? If your gear is mostly mirrored, running quant gear shouldn't be a problem.

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Erethyl wrote:

Hi Enahkra

thanks a lot for this guide. i hadn't played wanders in the last 3 leagues as after the barrage nerfs i thought they lost too much dmg, but i've started playing now again thx to you.

I'm currently playing as raider (lvl 88), with avatar of the veil, rapid assault and way of the poacher. As bosses are quickly dying in tier 8-10 i almost never have no flasks up.

Do you think it's still worth to switch to pf?

Hey there. I think it depends on what you plan on farming. You'll be ok as Raider for most map bosses but multi phase bosses, especially endgame ones will suck. For example Uber Elder/Shaper/Chimera and this will be even worse now that bosses got 3-4x more life. Even some map bosses such as Core and Tower boss may be a bit harder.

I'm still working my way up the atlas so most bosses are not a problem. For bossing my intention is to swap to pf but it will still take a while to get there.

Damage is not currently a problem, so i was wondering if pf would be tankier then raider.

Thanks for this build. Probably my most enjoyable build I have ever played. Currently about 20 ex into the bow version.

I have one question though...

I have 200 max ES but when blood rage is on and I shoot barrage with ES leech supported, I don't gain any ES at all, it stays at 0.
Do I still gain the damage while leeching from ES leech support?

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Hi, how much MF were you planning on running and what is your budget? The setup seems to have gear from an old POB of mine in the mirrored wander guide if I recall correctly. That setup should still more or less be optimized (maybe Power Siphon as the single target skill now). Were you wondering which MF mirrored pieces to buy for maximum DPS + quant? Also what content were you planning on running as MF? If your gear is mostly mirrored, running quant gear shouldn't be a problem.

Yeah I'm basically wondering what would be the optimal gear to mirror for a good balance between damage, clearspeed and mf.
I'd like to be over 100% quant at least while maintaining high endgame dps.
I can sell off bunch of bow gear so there isn't really a budget although I'd prefer having to avoid mirroring jewels since that makes me feel bad.

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Erethyl wrote:

I'm still working my way up the atlas so most bosses are not a problem. For bossing my intention is to swap to pf but it will still take a while to get there.

Damage is not currently a problem, so i was wondering if pf would be tankier then raider.

Hi, I thought I addressed your question in second part of the post just above yours. Perhaps I didn't fully answer your question

yes you will be tankier from one-shots as Pathfinder for sure, for both physical and elemental damage. This is mainly from a combination of the 6% reduced ele damage taken (this value looks low but it's actually pretty significant) from the ascendancy and the higher flask effect that scales all the defensive properties of your flasks.

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DecieverzZ wrote:

Thanks for this build. Probably my most enjoyable build I have ever played. Currently about 20 ex into the bow version.

I have one question though...

I have 200 max ES but when blood rage is on and I shoot barrage with ES leech supported, I don't gain any ES at all, it stays at 0.
Do I still gain the damage while leeching from ES leech support?

Hi there. Thanks for playing the build and just wanted to say that the bow guide will probably be updated today; as of now many of the gear sections have not been updated yet so only the POB is valid.


Okay here's how the gem's mechanics work. It has two separate more multipliers, a 24% one and a 39% one. The larger one applies only while you're leeching whereas the other multiplier (24%) applies when you're at max ES. They never both apply at the same time. So to take advantage of this gem, we want to remain in a state of constant leeching, which means we never want our ES to be at max (b/c you stop leeching at max ES). So that's why your ES staying at 0 is intentional.

The reason it stays at 0 is because just like life leech your ES leech can only go up to 20% of your total ES pool per second. Since you have 200 flat ES, the fastest you can leech ES at is 40 ES/second. Blood Rage on the other hand applies degen = 4% of your max life. Since you have ~5k life, 4% of 5k = 200 ES. Therefore you lose ES at 200 ES/sec while ES leech gem gains you ES at 40 ES/sec. This is why you always sit at 0 ES, because you are always in a state of constant ES degen which means you are always leeching ES which means you have the 39% more multiplier. If you have further questions lmk

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Mexiclapper wrote:

Yeah I'm basically wondering what would be the optimal gear to mirror for a good balance between damage, clearspeed and mf.
I'd like to be over 100% quant at least while maintaining high endgame dps.
I can sell off bunch of bow gear so there isn't really a budget although I'd prefer having to avoid mirroring jewels since that makes me feel bad.

Yeah definitely do not mirror jewels lol.


Is your current bow setup based solely around Windripper (pure MF), or were you already using some damage gear for phys conversion bows? Just trying to get a perspective on what you might already have b/c there are mirrored MF pieces for Windripper builds that will probably be just fine in a min-maxed MF wander setup.


Also, do you count the IIQ gem into your 100% IIQ requirement?

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Enahkra wrote:

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Erethyl wrote:

I'm still working my way up the atlas so most bosses are not a problem. For bossing my intention is to swap to pf but it will still take a while to get there.

Damage is not currently a problem, so i was wondering if pf would be tankier then raider.

Hi, I thought I addressed your question in second part of the post just above yours. Perhaps I didn't fully answer your question

yes you will be tankier from one-shots as Pathfinder for sure, for both physical and elemental damage. This is mainly from a combination of the 6% reduced ele damage taken (this value looks low but it's actually pretty significant) from the ascendancy and the higher flask effect that scales all the defensive properties of your flasks.

Thanks a lot for your answer. It actually makes a lot of sense.

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Enahkra wrote:

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Mexiclapper wrote:

Yeah I'm basically wondering what would be the optimal gear to mirror for a good balance between damage, clearspeed and mf.
I'd like to be over 100% quant at least while maintaining high endgame dps.
I can sell off bunch of bow gear so there isn't really a budget although I'd prefer having to avoid mirroring jewels since that makes me feel bad.

Yeah definitely do not mirror jewels lol.


Is your current bow setup based solely around Windripper (pure MF), or were you already using some damage gear for phys conversion bows? Just trying to get a perspective on what you might already have b/c there are mirrored MF pieces for Windripper builds that will probably be just fine in a min-maxed MF wander setup.


Also, do you count the IIQ gem into your 100% IIQ requirement?

Yeah I'm pure MF atm stacking lightning dmg so sadly not a lot of stuff that would transfer outside of lower end multimodded stuff
I would be fine with counting iiq into the 100%

Build is going very smoothly, loving it, the singletarget DPS is insane


Kind of turn which flasks I should use




This is my current setup, I tried swapping out Life Flask for Quicksilver, but the degen from Blood Rage can become really obnoxious at the end of a fight