[3.13] ESSENCE DRAIN / BANE / SOULREND Occultist / Trickster Build. STARTER & UBER Elder Carry!

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arcadiyan wrote:

Why i get one shoted with Chaos Inoculation ? With 6k es
in the feed it says : I has commited suicide . What could be the reason ?

Isn't that the caustic mana flask shenanigans?

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NathanAP wrote:

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MuFeR wrote:

I don't know why everyone says Bane vs Soulrend instead of using both. You can get on a 6link bow bane+despair+temp chaisn+efficacy+void manipulation+swift affliction which will have a great duration (only need the +1 curse from whispers of doom) and selfcast soulrend+gmp+controlled destruction+efficacy+swift affliction+whatever. With malevolence aura soulrend can 1shot blue packs in yellow maps (without bane applied) without any special investment and 0% quality on gems so the cast speed is not so much of an issue if you need to cast once and you clear 2 whole screens since the missiles travel very far.

I'm actually not comparing both, but with Contagion. Contagion and ED combo was great, I want to try use Contagion with Soulrand, but Bane is too damn good comparing to Contagion. That said, I'm trying to figure if it is worth to use Soulrend with Bane already set, since its intant cast and in a good area.

I'm in act 8 now using Bane to clear, but with Contagion + Blight CwC Soulrend set to bosses and seems really safe and strong. I'm still figuring out about Contagion though, since it can one shot almost every pack of monsters, but I reach Alva and its too slow to clear it... I'm not a reference for anything, I'm not really good at this game to make my own build, so I accept opinions.

ED is specifically designed to work with Contagion.

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Zombox5000 wrote:

This is a very weak starter build. It has all the damage you'd ever want, but it's EXTREMELY fragile without Shavronne's since chaos cuts you to ribbons. Shavronne's is, in most leagues, a fairly expensive item costing over an EX... which means you are not sniffing any real maps until you've farmed up an EX or more, which means grinding T1 maps for hours and hours. This is probably a good second character, but unless you are extemely lucky with your gear I don't understand how you're meant to survive. Currently have 8k ES and it means jack squat when a chaos using enemy melts me in 1 touch. Possible I'm missing something, but the guide doesn't do a very good job of explaining what I should be doing to mitigate these issues.

YOu can always go CI till you waiting for Shavs

I'm doing this build, and while I'm aiming to go CwC, I'm using different setup atm with GMP + Unleash, every single cast shot 15-20 projectiles and each of them keep auto aim while traveling.

The latter projectiles from unleash will lag behind a little (Due to changing pathing many times as mobs die from the initial projectiles), which will make them catch each other on monsters with more HP (Rares/blue packs/Rogue Exiles.. etc) keeping the DoT continuous, and adding some extra dps with "hits".

Like: My DoT is 15k, and each projectile average hit is 1k, so if 3 extra projectiles hits. They do (1000*0.7*3 = 2100 dps. That's 14% more dps beside the ongoing DoT, So, why not?

I use [Blight + Spell Totem + Multiple Totem] With And "Spreading Rot" Jewel. To have Max hinder and max Wither on bosses.

And then [Bane + Despair + Void Manipulation + Controlled destruction] On top of that.

If Bane debuff persist even after applying another curse that replaces it as some people here claim, then I'll probably run Temporal Chains on Blasphemy for even better defense. Though I'm tempted to just run Malevolence with Discipline, and keep all curses on hand cast with Bane..

That said, Soulrend build is my fastest Malachi kill of all time, even better than Vortex/Cold Snap in previous league... I'm having so much fun!

Hey, somewhat new to POE here. In the early levelling gear/skills section Bane is listed as a 4L but there seems to be five listed there?

I count Bane + Despair + Enfeeble OR TemporalChains + VoidManipulation + ControlledDestruction.

Is there anything I'm missing here or is that actually meant to say 5L?

Thank you!

Withering presence from asc. occ. needs a totem or a jewel like Spreading Rot to work?
I don't think so, but I want to be sure...why I don't see any sign on the screen like Vile Bation as ex.?

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SpykeV wrote:

Hey, somewhat new to POE here. In the early levelling gear/skills section Bane is listed as a 4L but there seems to be five listed there?

I count Bane + Despair + Enfeeble OR TemporalChains + VoidManipulation + ControlledDestruction.

Is there anything I'm missing here or is that actually meant to say 5L?

Thank you!

That if you have 1 curse you should use controlled destruction. Will make it clearer!

Pain attunement doesnt work when u are on CI right ?

Correct, you can go CI though until you have Shavronne's and then go low life with Blood Magic Support and get Pain Attunement.

First time I play a magic character, any advice for the leveling tree please? Where to go etc