[3.5] CheeQu's CoC Ice Nova Assassin - Up to 7m Shaper DPS + Amazing Clearspeed [In-Depth Guide]

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ojejku wrote:

It does not overwrite adrenaline flask, I was using same setup on my elementalist WO which is 98 as well ;) I just doubled checked that in character sheet for sure. I chose that roll instead of increased crit chance because I don't need any more crit chance and 12% ms + stun avoidance is so good (i know cyclone has can't be stunned, but from time to time you're not cycloning, only running). Moreover, for mapping that flask is better than acuities since life recovery is instant, same as my Shadowswitch chest for lvl28 ice nova ;)

You're right about ehp, but remember on MoM you get capped dodge chance with vaal grace for attacks and spells (12% spell dodge roll on boots), so your real ehp is much higher than 8k (5.6k+ life and 2.3k+ mom) so I would say it's about the same level but the investment you need to make is so much lower. Also Cinder flask recovers 3% mana on kill same as for life, so for MoM characters it's a dream come true thing. You just need to test it, I was more than happy, I just wanted to explore a different approach to have comparison. Now, once I've done it, I can honestly say MoM is awesome as well.

The bleed immunity, I don't have, but I have a corrupted frozen tail with 'corrupted blood cannot be inflicted on you', that's more than enough for mapping with so much ehp, recovery, leech & karui flask.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

Hey MrPetrov I have question....Why arnt you going full blown Hybrid with the ES on hit? I mean hubri helm, sorc boots/gloves. With your tree you can get 3000-4000 ES on top of like 6K life for like 9-10K hybrid HP.

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ojejku wrote:

I think I'll share my experience. I was not really following any guide like yours @CheeQu and the one in scion section of course, I got already planned things before league started. I tested at least 5 different setups, because I like to test things on my own, rather than just reading the stuff and following it, that's how I play game for such a long time.

My current setup can be checked in my profile, it's same as you guys trying recently with discipline on hit, so just check my character (IJustWannaCrit) just to sum up:


EHP in total is ~9k, adding up 7.6k+ life and 1.2k+ es. I'll hit 7.7k+ life when I divine my jewels some gear and get lvl 99+.

I'm also missing some bits like discipline lvl 21, quality on 21 ice nova for 10% iaoe etc.

I saw you guys are obsessed about increasing your EHP which is totally fine, that's my approach as well, but the easiest thing to increase your EHP without investing so much on gear is just going MoM and Phase Acro. Anyway, you're investing mainly in defensive auras....

I had that setup previously, with 5.7k life and 2.3k mana and it is was so good with warlords mark on hit, that's also what that scion guides follows. If anybody would be interested I can share my previous tree for mom version.

I decided to switch to current setup because I just want to test different things as I mentioned in the beginning and I did get this WE (+crit chance with hatred and es on hit with discipline) I have on my character.

I also was playing with some serious DPS setups using this chest:

with empower lvl 4 I have ice nova lvl 28 (double dmg of lvl 20) and cyclone lvl 28 (+4 range).

I'm also streaming from while to while if you want to come by and see how it performs.

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mrpetrov wrote:

CheeQu - what do you think of the new tree I'm using, with unnatural instinct and 2x minds of the meek - I'm guessing too much IAS for a cyclone setup, but the resistances, life availability right up to level 100, movespeed, crit multi etc are all pretty tasty?

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CheeQu wrote:

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mrpetrov wrote:

CheeQu - what do you think of the new tree I'm using, with unnatural instinct and 2x minds of the meek - I'm guessing too much IAS for a cyclone setup, but the resistances, life availability right up to level 100, movespeed, crit multi etc are all pretty tasty?

Hey, ye I saw what you said about it but I'm still on mobile so I cant really compare them. Will be back and have access to PoB in 3 days so Ill check it out more then.

Really glad what you me and Aim_Deep have achieved with all these ideas rolling all the time.

Also reached 150k views on the guide already, pretty crazy considering it was released less than 2 weeks ago. This build might go mainstream next league if it survives patch notes day.