[3.5] CheeQu's CoC Ice Nova Assassin - Up to 7m Shaper DPS + Amazing Clearspeed [In-Depth Guide]
" For maps it probably is super strong indeed. You give up though curse immunity and the ability to use the flask 2 times at bosses like uber elder etc. Last edited by CheeQu on Jan 6, 2019, 5:51:52 AM
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I think I'll share my experience. I was not really following any guide like yours @CheeQu and the one in scion section of course, I got already planned things before league started. I tested at least 5 different setups, because I like to test things on my own, rather than just reading the stuff and following it, that's how I play game for such a long time.
My current setup can be checked in my profile, it's same as you guys trying recently with discipline on hit, so just check my character (IJustWannaCrit) just to sum up:
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EHP in total is ~9k, adding up 7.6k+ life and 1.2k+ es. I'll hit 7.7k+ life when I divine my jewels some gear and get lvl 99+. I'm also missing some bits like discipline lvl 21, quality on 21 ice nova for 10% iaoe etc. I saw you guys are obsessed about increasing your EHP which is totally fine, that's my approach as well, but the easiest thing to increase your EHP without investing so much on gear is just going MoM and Phase Acro. Anyway, you're investing mainly in defensive auras.... I had that setup previously, with 5.7k life and 2.3k mana and it is was so good with warlords mark on hit, that's also what that scion guides follows. If anybody would be interested I can share my previous tree for mom version. I decided to switch to current setup because I just want to test different things as I mentioned in the beginning and I did get this WE (+crit chance with hatred and es on hit with discipline) I have on my character. I also was playing with some serious DPS setups using this chest: with empower lvl 4 I have ice nova lvl 28 (double dmg of lvl 20) and cyclone lvl 28 (+4 range). I'm also streaming from while to while if you want to come by and see how it performs. Last edited by ojejku on Jan 6, 2019, 6:20:32 AM
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I started this Character as my 2nd Char and found this guide. All I can say is - love it. Just killed Elder and Shaper today and it felt super strong. Thanks for this guide! Never thought I will do anything as Assassin a few weeks ago :D
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Guys can you tell me am i doing everything good ? Need help from someone better than me , btw its my 1st time any CoC :)
https://pastebin.com/JDc810D3 Yesterday i killed shaper for the 1st time in my life with this coc , but i'm preety sure i did something wrong and i can do even more dps. | |
" I cant decide between the acuity or some nice multi craft gloves with dmg vs chilled enemies, dmg during flask effect, dmg while leeching, life and maybe increased crit/elemental damage with recent crit. I could use a crafting service to get high rolls. I have good budget so I just want to pick the best for running t16 maps and then killing uber elder. I like to stay tanky since I play on a controller sometimes and have some lag issues. Few questions... Which life on hit watchers would I get and does LoH count as leeching for the "dmg while leeching" mod? Is a LL in cospris enough leech with acuity or rare gloves or does either need warlords? Ive never run a build without enfeeble but the mana leech and endurance charge from warlords seems nice for this build. Really wanna figure this out so I can start trying the build. |
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" Put out Haste and your Devotos for Starkonjas or a strong rare with lot of life and resis, maybe you are overcapped with Ats. Btw, you can refund 2 of your Dex Nodes on your skill tree at the right side. Maybe you forgot them... |
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" Hey there, thanks for sharing! Looks great. I see you grabbed tireless on the tree, was mentioning that yesterday. Your tree actually looks a lot like what Im about to release when I get home in a few days. I have very few changes like flask nodes for clearspeed and no power charges, but it's almost the same! I had looked into MoM a while back, but I dont think you can get close to life+auras. Don't forget you have 9k now, but with enfeeble (+ enchant) that translates to 9800 EHP against -80% curse effectiveness bosses (shaper,uber elder etc) and to 15500 EHP (lol) in maps. Not even debetable there. For league start it might be worth it though to grab MoM. Ill have to check again. And that chest for damage looks... scary. I can imagine DPS reaching 10m+ easily with that lol. Edit: How do you counter bleed? And also does that crafted mod on cinder flask work with adrenaline? I thought adrenaline overrides it. Last edited by CheeQu on Jan 6, 2019, 7:10:55 AM
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" Hey, Discipline with ES on hit is better. Also no, none of these count as leeching. LL gem can cap your leech pretty fast (we also leech from cyclone cause of the tree) so no need for warlords. Warlords is good only for maps where you can get endurance charges (still less mitigation than enfeeble though) and so it's useless against end game bosses where you dont get charges. It's also good for mana leech but that can be easily solved without it aswell. As I said Id go for acuity cause you can sell them easily if you change your mind and want more damage. Last edited by CheeQu on Jan 6, 2019, 7:24:37 AM
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" 1. You completely miss the Vortex bonechill setup, check gem section. 2. Miss Arcane Surge 3. Your attack speed is probably too high, read the important spoiler under gear section. 4. You run 2 curses which is impossible, only one can work (unless you have 2 curses from tree which I doubt you do) I suggest you read the guide one more time, you ve skipped some very important stuff! Last edited by CheeQu on Jan 6, 2019, 7:26:40 AM
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" It does not overwrite adrenaline flask, I was using same setup on my elementalist WO which is 98 as well ;) I just doubled checked that in character sheet for sure. I chose that roll instead of increased crit chance because I don't need any more crit chance and 12% ms + stun avoidance is so good (i know cyclone has can't be stunned, but from time to time you're not cycloning, only running). Moreover, for mapping that flask is better than acuities since life recovery is instant, same as my Shadowswitch chest for lvl28 ice nova ;) You're right about ehp, but remember on MoM you get capped dodge chance with vaal grace for attacks and spells (12% spell dodge roll on boots), so your real ehp is much higher than 8k (5.6k+ life and 2.3k+ mom) so I would say it's about the same level but the investment you need to make is so much lower. Also Cinder flask recovers 3% mana on kill same as for life, so for MoM characters it's a dream come true thing. You just need to test it, I was more than happy, I just wanted to explore a different approach to have comparison. Now, once I've done it, I can honestly say MoM is awesome as well. The bleed immunity, I don't have, but I have a corrupted frozen tail with 'corrupted blood cannot be inflicted on you', that's more than enough for mapping with so much ehp, recovery, leech & karui flask. What I could also suggest re movement skills as I was testing all possible setups (leap slam, shield charge, whirling blades etc all with helmets enchants), phase run setup is simply the best, since we're not investing in the aps. Last edited by ojejku on Jan 6, 2019, 7:29:51 AM
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