[3.5] CheeQu's CoC Ice Nova Assassin - Up to 7m Shaper DPS + Amazing Clearspeed [In-Depth Guide]

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GeneralDurph wrote:

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mrpetrov wrote:

I’m in my phone, but a big question for me is which delivers more dps: 120% increased damage, HoI or aspect of the spider?

off the top of my head im unsure, but i believe hoi is vastly outperformed by aspect of the spider, and i dont intend on incorporating it into my final version of the build.

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Kezxile wrote:

Anyone have tips/suggestions for first timers doing uber elder with this build?

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mrpetrov wrote:

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GeneralDurph wrote:

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mrpetrov wrote:

I’m in my phone, but a big question for me is which delivers more dps: 120% increased damage, HoI or aspect of the spider?

off the top of my head im unsure, but i believe hoi is vastly outperformed by aspect of the spider, and i dont intend on incorporating it into my final version of the build.

Ok, I've done a dps analysis in PoB comparing Aspect of the Spider, Herald of Ice and a straight 120% increased damage to proxy for rare crafted gloves. Given none of them change crit chance or attack speeds, you can compare them on a straight average hit basis - acknowledging however that HoI gets better with higher APS given it is a flat damage boost.

Average CoC Ice Nova hit vs Guardian/Shaper (absolute amount isn't so relevant, only the changes thereto) excluding any of the three buffs: 87.7k

1. Adding level 20 HoI: 91.9k (4.7% more)
2a. Single stack (1 second) of spider web: 92.1k (5.0% more)
2b. Two stacks (2 seconds) of spider web: 96.5k (10.0% more)
2c. Three stacks (3 seconds, max) of spider web: 100.9k (15.1% more)
3. 120% increased damage (proxy for high end crafted rare gloves): 109.0k (24.3% more)

So, at least from a dps perspective - which ignores the defensive benefits of spider - the rare gloves come out clearly on top, followed by spider, with HoI linger sadly last.

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mrpetrov wrote:

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Kezxile wrote:

Anyone have tips/suggestions for first timers doing uber elder with this build?

Don't be greedy and don't rush. You have lots of dps but the temptation will still be to try and stay cycloning over them come hell or high water - don't.

Be ready to run or charge/whirl etc away as soon as you see a shaper ball coming toward you. Given cyclone locks you into an animation for a little while, you need every millisecond to manually dodge the balls when they come. Be patient but alert.

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GeneralDurph wrote:

Good breakdown.

Looks like im going to be avoiding hoi and running blasp/enfeeble, warords mark ring (running the node that allows 2 curses), discipline (es goh watchers) and spider. Should be marvelous.

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exguerrero wrote:

Hey so I solved the mana issues I was having. I have the top of the line gear, all slots perfect. But, i was still suffering mana issues. I got a jewel with 2 mana gained on melee hit and I'm not having mana issues anymore. Crafted a %6 life, global multi and mana on hit.