[3.5] CheeQu's CoC Ice Nova Assassin - Up to 7m Shaper DPS + Amazing Clearspeed [In-Depth Guide]

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Shock3r19711 wrote:

Sry for dumb questions but its my 2nd league and only tried 2 builds before this. Does the adds cold dmg or adds cold dmg to spells matter more on the cospri?

Added cold to spells is the important one. The other only affects "Attacks" (not spells) with the weapon, so cyclone only.

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CheeQu wrote:

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Shock3r19711 wrote:

Wouldnt want to make you jelous. But are these gloves better than acuity?

If you are investing lots of exalts into this (or you can settle with a lower tier Life mod - I don't recommend this) you can also use gloves with (30 - 50)% Increased Damage with Hits against Chilled Enemies. That will make me jealous though, so please don't.



If we can afford to buy another nice rare jewel, would you switch anything to get another jewel slot and where? Using the acuity build

The best (and expensive) 2 options now are either enfeeble on hit gloves with good life/resists or acuity.

I would add a third option, rare crafted gloves with:
- ~50% damage vs chilled enemies
- ~45% damage while leeching
- ~30% damage during flask effect
- ~70 life
- 45-48% cold res
- 35% light or fire res OR crit chance+ele damage

That’s up to circa 125% increased damage, which translates to around a 50-70% more multiplier, or another link and a half in your coc setup. Beastly. Not to mention a decent life number and 80% resistances.

Hard to turn down that much dps for enfeeble if you're focused on boss runs.

Hello, great build so far, can clean everything with ease but I'm really annoyed by the fact we're capped in attack speed and have to play with cdr belt. Does that mean there is no way to adapt the build to play with headhunter ?

From what I understand, mrpetrov's blade flurry variation would offer this possibility but I feel like it would mean to trade swiftness to a lowest clear ability ?

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mrpetrov wrote:

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CheeQu wrote:

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Shock3r19711 wrote:

Wouldnt want to make you jelous. But are these gloves better than acuity?

If you are investing lots of exalts into this (or you can settle with a lower tier Life mod - I don't recommend this) you can also use gloves with (30 - 50)% Increased Damage with Hits against Chilled Enemies. That will make me jealous though, so please don't.



If we can afford to buy another nice rare jewel, would you switch anything to get another jewel slot and where? Using the acuity build

The best (and expensive) 2 options now are either enfeeble on hit gloves with good life/resists or acuity.

I would add a third option, rare crafted gloves with:
- ~50% damage vs chilled enemies
- ~45% damage while leeching
- ~30% damage during flask effect
- ~70 life
- 45-48% cold res
- 35% light or fire res OR crit chance+ele damage

That’s up to circa 125% increased damage, which translates to around a 50-70% more multiplier, or another link and a half in your coc setup. Beastly. Not to mention a decent life number and 80% resistances.

Hard to turn down that much dps for enfeeble if you're focused on boss runs.

Thats not even close to 50-70, probably not even half of that, but ye if you can find such gloves sure :P Can you have all of these 3 damage mods at once?

Edit: Enfeeble on hit will allow you to run herald or aspect which should be around the same damage overall.

So id say yep it's a good 3rd option definitely and very similar to enfeeble on hit.

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CheeQu wrote:

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mrpetrov wrote:

I would add a third option, rare crafted gloves with:
- ~50% damage vs chilled enemies
- ~45% damage while leeching
- ~30% damage during flask effect
- ~70 life
- 45-48% cold res
- 35% light or fire res OR crit chance+ele damage

That’s up to circa 125% increased damage, which translates to around a 50-70% more multiplier, or another link and a half in your coc setup. Beastly. Not to mention a decent life number and 80% resistances.

Hard to turn down that much dps for enfeeble if you're focused on boss runs.

Thats not even close to 50-70, probably not even half of that, but ye if you can find such gloves sure :P Can you have all of these 3 damage mods at once?

Edit: Enfeeble on hit will allow you to run herald or aspect which should be around the same damage overall.

So id say yep it's a good 3rd option definitely.

Sure, those gloves exist - see them here: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2258456/page/53#p16121709

They’re not even that hard to craft compared to some. WM on hit also let’s you run Aspect or Herald too, so it’s not fair to conflate the two.

Also, in terms of how it translates to dps, you’re right, I crafted a custom glove and it results in an average ice nova hit increase (ie more) of 25%.

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Thats not even close to 50-70, probably not even half of that, but ye if you can find such gloves sure :P Can you have all of these 3 damage mods at once?

Edit: Enfeeble on hit will allow you to run herald or aspect which should be around the same damage overall.

So id say yep it's a good 3rd option definitely and very similar to enfeeble on hit.[/quote]




so with a budget of 60+ exa which gloves you think are the best for t16 runs and uber elder? Acuity seems a lot easier to get at least.. From my limited poe experience ive only seen enfeeble on hit on thombfist but that may mess up the attack speed. Do they even have good enfeeble rare gloves or is there another unique besides acuity?

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mrpetrov wrote:

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CheeQu wrote:

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mrpetrov wrote:

I would add a third option, rare crafted gloves with:
- ~50% damage vs chilled enemies
- ~45% damage while leeching
- ~30% damage during flask effect
- ~70 life
- 45-48% cold res
- 35% light or fire res OR crit chance+ele damage

That’s up to circa 125% increased damage, which translates to around a 50-70% more multiplier, or another link and a half in your coc setup. Beastly. Not to mention a decent life number and 80% resistances.

Hard to turn down that much dps for enfeeble if you're focused on boss runs.

Thats not even close to 50-70, probably not even half of that, but ye if you can find such gloves sure :P Can you have all of these 3 damage mods at once?

Edit: Enfeeble on hit will allow you to run herald or aspect which should be around the same damage overall.

So id say yep it's a good 3rd option definitely.

Sure, those gloves exist - see them here: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2258456/page/53#p16121709

They’re not even that hard to craft compared to some. WM on hit also let’s you run Aspect or Herald too, so it’s not fair to conflate the two.

Also, in terms of how it translates to dps, you’re right, I crafted a custom glove and it results in an average ice nova hit increase (ie more) of 25%.

For me warlords mark is useless so I ignore that option :P

Thats not even close to 50-70, probably not even half of that, but ye if you can find such gloves sure :P Can you have all of these 3 damage mods at once?

Edit: Enfeeble on hit will allow you to run herald or aspect which should be around the same damage overall.

So id say yep it's a good 3rd option definitely and very similar to enfeeble on hit.[/quote]




so with a budget of 60+ exa which gloves you think are the best for t16 runs and uber elder? Acuity seems a lot easier to get at least.. From my limited poe experience ive only seen enfeeble on hit on thombfist but that may mess up the attack speed. Do they even have good enfeeble rare gloves or is there another unique besides acuity?[/quote]
Id say go for acuity which are easy to buy/sell in case you change your mind.

If you want more damage after testing it go for one of the other 2 options.

can some one explain the whole attack speed thing? currently my cyclone is .23second per attack should i jewel for more atk or less?

edit: i also have 20% cooldown recovery belt