[3.5] CheeQu's CoC Ice Nova Assassin - Up to 7m Shaper DPS + Amazing Clearspeed [In-Depth Guide]

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CheeQu wrote:

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Aim_Deep wrote:

@ CheeQu Both would be ideal but I like % life if only 1 because game doesn't play like theory. You often dont get to spin on boss continuously. You often only get one or two crits off before you have to get away from them. Thats where leech shine,

Especially when out of diamond flask only at 65-75% crit.

Sure, that's very true. Ill leave some more interesting math for more thinking:

The life leech gem has the 50% increased life leeched per second property. That means that with leech from this gem you need 10 / 1.5 = 7 hits to cap your 20% max life leech rate, whereas with normal leech you need 10 hits.

From the "leech from everything" method (your method) you generate 33.25 leech instances per second (7.5 cyclone, 15 main ice nova, 3.25 frostbolt, 7.5 secondary ice nova). So against single target you can cap your leech rate in 10 / 33.25 = 0.396 sec (gets rounded up to meet with cyclone hit) or in 3 Cyclone hits.

From the "leech from cospris" method you generate 10.75 leech instances per second (3.25 frostbolt, 7.5 secondary ice nova).
So against single target you can cap your leech rate in 7 / 10.75 = 0.66 (gets rounded up to meet with a cyclone hit) or in 5 Cyclone hits.


Now let's include LGoH from watchers eye to the cospri leech method and calculate leech for 3 cyclone hits to compare with the leech from everything method:

3 hits with cyclone with the leech from cospri method will generate on average 4.5 (1.5 Frostbolt, 3 Ice Nova) x 1.5 = 6.75 leech instances. That's 13.5% of max life regen per sec. Adding the 30 LGoH: In 3 cyclone hits we hit a total of 13.5 times (3 cyclone, 6 main ice nova, 1.5 Frostbolt, 3 secondary Ice Nova). 13.5 x 30 = 405 life or if we assume 6200 life, it's 405 / 6200 = 6.5% of max life. Combining those two we get; 13.5 + 6.5 = 20% of life.

So funnily enough (didnt know this before reaching this point in the post) both setups will regen the same amount of life with 3 cyclone hits in the course of a second. (things get weired if you calculate beyond or for sooner than one second).

So with this new info, the added benefit of LGoH reaching a max of 29% life regen per sec against the cap of 20% max life regen for plain leech makes this an easy choice for me from now on! (If there's a mistake in the numbers point it out but I think it's right.)

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Hohenheim_ wrote:

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mrpetrov wrote:

Sure mate, here is my setup:
https://pastebin.com/GfUrPZeG

Note my IAS is 3.69, not 3.48 that PoB says, because PoB doesn't include the 7%ias jewel that I use (it only kicks in if you've crit recently, which is always with this build, but PoB doesn't have that configuration option).

Also note that I did not take the Annihilation node as my spell crit chance for my main 6L coc Nova is capped, so there's no point being overcapped on crit chance.

Thanks for that man, I was struggling on my build to see why Anger would be used, as I was getting more damage with Aspect of the Spider and more mana spare as well. Now I see it was because my build has a lot more crit multi before adding the jewel.

Also, PoB just updated to fix that jewel issue! Good timing.

I don't take Annihilation either, not worth the points even in my build which isn't as focused on crit chance.

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mrpetrov wrote:

I've been fooling around with other CoC delivery mechanisms today, including using Blade Flurry.

I wasn't loving cyclone in some ways, because while it's pretty fast for clear speed, it can be a little imprecise - which can be troublesome with elder.

Also, I find the transitions out of cyclone and into movement or movement skills a little clunky and a tad slow.

So I did some gear juggling and am now running essentially the same build with blade flurry. While straight line map speed might be a fraction slower, I find overall speed the same, as BF makes up for it in corners and tight maps where cyclone can get caught as you spin off into doors and corners.

I also find it more precise with bosses, allowing me to peel off the attack and move more quickly and surely than with cyclone. That said, I've not tried uber elder with it, which will be its real test. It has also freed up some gem slots for me. Attached is my current PoB.

https://pastebin.com/94GBBuuZ

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Note that I have settled for a 5.7aps build for now, as the tradeoffs to get to 7.5aps at 14+% cdr for blade flurry aren't worth it imho. Hence, I got a cool corrupted belt which I got mainly for the 50% flask gain and crit chance - my own mini pathfinder!

EDIT: I am going to unspec out of Doom Cast as I just realised I am 92% increased crit chance overcapped on spell crit, so I'll have 4 extra passives to put somewhere.

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Selvam wrote:

is the spider craft a prefix or a suffix? i got a free prefix on my ring so im wondering if i could craft it on. cheers

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zaric1 wrote:

Hi, enjoying this build sooo much. Only one question I have - what to do with Chimera cloud phase? Because basically he stun-locks me. Thanks for advice!