[3.5] Wretched Orb (Insane duration Winter orb) Shaper, Uber elder, end game

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NoBotGamer wrote:

Hey nice Build. I would like to play this as Occultist could you provide a skill tree for that ? Would be soooo nice. I think an occultist version have to skip the skill effect duration under sion because i would need to go trough hp or a huge evasion chunk, but i could live with that since im used to play the "normal" winter orb builds.

I am playing this as Occultist. It does miss out on some of the damage that assassin gets. Some perks are that it can run hexproof maps and we get +1 curse, so a bit of dps can be gotten from using a ring with assassins mark on hit or get leech with warlords mark ring.
Also we get a little bit of curse effectiveness from ascendancy, not sure what to do with it though, I guess it allows a 20% effectiveness enchant which might be cheaper...

I have done uber elder with this but I am really bad at the fight so it has taken a few attempts :P

Here is the POB for my char:
https://pastebin.com/hHmhY6LX

I got to ask, does temp chains also impact rate at which projectiles are shoot from winter orb, because moving is one thing but cast speed and rate of projectiles is another

Thanks in advance

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kescho wrote:

I got to ask, does temp chains also impact rate at which projectiles are shoot from winter orb, because moving is one thing but cast speed and rate of projectiles is another

Thanks in advance

Kaom Roots negate any action speed reductions on your char; so yes cast speed would normally be affected but with these boots - no.

Would there be a way to make this work with ES. Finding with the low HP sometimes a issue being squishy. Having 10k ES would be nice even if some DPS lost

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Bob123aka wrote:

Would there be a way to make this work with ES. Finding with the low HP sometimes a issue being squishy. Having 10k ES would be nice even if some DPS lost

The "low" HP is rarely an issue. The mix of increased effect of your Temp Chains curse, the phasing and high movement speed added to the fact that we can attack from range, make this build quite survivable IF you know how to use it. Having less than 7k HP or 10k ES doesn't mean that a build is automatically squishy. People have already killed Uber Elder with this build...

If you want to go as Occultist "Crunkmaster" did it and wrote about it a few posts up. You could check his character as a guide.

Did my first deathless Uber elder with this build today! I used cold snap in gloves to apply temp chains, together with dps boost from Hypothermia it went much much easier than previous kills.

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_Eddd wrote:

UNDERRATED BUILD AND CREATOR

Guys, no joke, I really don't know how this genius came up with this build but it's insane. Just killed Uber Elder and all PoE content with it. Indeed, you gotta invest a little and have some brains. I've put ~10 ex into it and it rocks! Just give it a try before it gets nerfed. Linked items below, I personalised the tree because I had no good jewels/too trash or too overpriced to buy.

Big props to @DreamScythe for this magnificent build.

Also PoB pastebin: https://pastebin.com/cnGZh5px

P.S: I would like to hear some tips for improvements for wands.

Updated items:

POB Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/LBLpx6SS

I've been playing this build all the league. I'm 100% sure it will get nerfed.

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_Eddd wrote:

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_Eddd wrote:

UNDERRATED BUILD AND CREATOR

Guys, no joke, I really don't know how this genius came up with this build but it's insane. Just killed Uber Elder and all PoE content with it. Indeed, you gotta invest a little and have some brains. I've put ~10 ex into it and it rocks! Just give it a try before it gets nerfed. Linked items below, I personalised the tree because I had no good jewels/too trash or too overpriced to buy.

Big props to @DreamScythe for this magnificent build.

Also PoB pastebin: https://pastebin.com/cnGZh5px

P.S: I would like to hear some tips for improvements for wands.

Updated items:

POB Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/LBLpx6SS

I've been playing this build all the league. I'm 100% sure it will get nerfed.

Yep it really rocks. Currenlty working in a more defensive dual/tri curse version of it. I will post it soon, just a few more balances and it will be ready for those who wants to try it.

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HolyInferno wrote:

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_Eddd wrote:

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_Eddd wrote:

UNDERRATED BUILD AND CREATOR

Guys, no joke, I really don't know how this genius came up with this build but it's insane. Just killed Uber Elder and all PoE content with it. Indeed, you gotta invest a little and have some brains. I've put ~10 ex into it and it rocks! Just give it a try before it gets nerfed. Linked items below, I personalised the tree because I had no good jewels/too trash or too overpriced to buy.

Big props to @DreamScythe for this magnificent build.

Also PoB pastebin: https://pastebin.com/cnGZh5px

P.S: I would like to hear some tips for improvements for wands.

Updated items:

POB Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/LBLpx6SS

I've been playing this build all the league. I'm 100% sure it will get nerfed.

Yep it really rocks. Currenlty working in a more defensive dual/tri curse version of it. I will post it soon, just a few more balances and it will be ready for those who wants to try it.

Yes my man! Post it up :D

Hey Wretched guys!

Leaving a Tri-curse version for who wants to try it. I've decided to change the original 1 Because I like more unique builds. So the core is the same as the original but added 2 more curses that works pretty fine.
This version is more expensive but i think it gains more defences and leech.

What curses we use?

1- Temp chains (obvious)
2- Enfeble on hit (corrupted shackles of the wretched)
3- Warlords Mark (elder ring)



I made some more changes except the tri-curse:
- Replaced Malachai's Artifice for Mark of the Shaper ring Because we using elder ring in the other slot and it adds a lot of dps.
- Replaced normal ring for Elder with Warlord's Mark.
- Replaced a normal amulet for a Shaped Amulet with better dps stats.
- Try to use a Helm based Armour, we use determination so escaling armour we will get more %phys mitigation.
- Get a Watcher's eye with +500-950 armour paired with immune to vulnerability while determination (it's not expensive and it give you almost 1.5-2k amour, about 8-10% phys reduction).
- Replaced Atziri's Promise for Wise Oak. We run warlod's mark and leech is covered, wise oak give us more dps and if you can balance your resistances we have 10% more elemental reduction.
- We can use to boots more our phys reduction adding a Quicksilver flask with duration + 100% increased armour.


You can play it with diferents setups:

1st(budget): Amulet +1 curse and Whispers of Doom on the tree.
There is plenty of +1 curse amulet with not bad stats between 20-70 chaos, just pick 1 that fills resistances, some life and crit multi.

2nd(more expensive): Body armor crafted +1 curse (3 ex) and Whispers of Doom (this was my choise).

Decided to go with this setup because amulets give too much dps and if we play with the corrupted +1 curse it's really hard to get a good 1 with good dps stats for under 5 ex.

3rd(mix): If u don't like the idea to go for Whispers of Doom in the tree, you can always play with +1 amulet and armor crafted +1 curses.

Pros:
- More survability thanks to enfeble + 3 endurance charges.
- We got a lot more phys dmg reduction (armor on watcher's eye, helmet armor based and flask). I have 45% phys reduction + enfeble.
- Issues from leech solved thank's to warlord's mark. When you run out of charges from Atziri's Promise on hard bosses you are fucked :P
- You can play differents setups so it's flexible.
- You can play it dual-curse if you preffer, just pick a ring with warlord's mark and +1 curses werever you want (amulet, chest or tree)
- Damage it's almost the same.
- You can play with Atziri's Promise if you prefer instead of Wise Oak.

Cons:
- We lost some HP because we have to cut most of the extra life nodes to get the Extra curse from tree. (you can always play it with +1 curse on chest and amulet if you don't like the idea of loosing hp).
- We lose our golem and his debuff.
- Maybe harder to balance our dext and resistances for a budged price.

My Stuff


Still missing a good helm -9 cold resis :(


Here is the pastebin. It's not the exact copy of my items but you can get and overall idea.

https://pastebin.com/nUBJ1PBL

Hope you enjoy it.
Cheers!