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djnat wrote:
6. Might of the Meek unique jewel smashes the competition with ALL jewels in the witch slot.
Cheers!
Do you think its worth to buy this gem for the build?...its 1 exalt in poe.trade. what are the benefits in stats for using that jewel?
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Posted byyissus#1647on Dec 18, 2018, 9:55:56 AM
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Nice to see you back.
You should give the WO thing a try. My swap weapen is also a WI staff but with GMP and incrased duration for winter Orb linked. Trash will be cleared by winter orb very solid. And the cwc will also trigger icestorm for some Harder rare mobs. For Single Target like map bosses i swap back to a Single target setup. Downside: i think you Need a 6 link staff to Support Winter orb and Icestorm. I made a Short Video of a map clear - the link should be on Page 39 (but on Scion)
Currently i try a setup with the malediction path and temp chains as Aura as a Second curse. Clear speed is insane wirh profane bloom - incursions feel so easy. But i had to drop n buff (currently arctic Armour) and you lose the freeze/ chill Immunity. So if you want to keep arskaali you have to rely on flasks for freeze/chill immunity. For regular Mapping no problem. I think your way is better for bosses. Maybe i will make a video with this setup today evening if you are Interested.
6-link is completely unnecessary, cause you can just have life leech gem unlinked. It's not only not really that good in winter orb (not enough damage), but we also have absurd regen in mapping due to ascendancy, and watcher's eye ES gain on hit as support.
In malediction path, i would rather sacrifice herald of ice instead. The only reason for herald of ice is ice explosion. That "added damage" have almost no effect on icestorm, and not really that great on winter orb either. If you have explosions from the profane bloom, better get rid of now useless "lesser explosion maker", instead of pretty good defensive buff.
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Posted byMed1umentor#6844on Dec 18, 2018, 10:36:18 AM
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yissus wrote:
Do you think its worth to buy this gem for the build?...its 1 exalt in poe.trade. what are the benefits in stats for using that jewel?
It affects ALL the 10 int nodes in its (large) radius and almost all of the small nodes leading to Breath of Rime / Heart of Ice.
The increase in damage / ES is pretty big, give it a try, you won't be disappointed.
After you equip Might of the Meek, you want to refund Frost Walker and the 10% small node leading to it, so you also have 2 extra passive points to put wherever you want.
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Posted bydjnat#4628on Dec 18, 2018, 10:45:23 AM
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djnat wrote:
6. Might of the Meek unique jewel smashes the competition with ALL jewels in the witch slot.
I wouldn't say 'smashes'. When I tried it in PoB over a good 52 value rare that I had in 3.4, it was a small upgrade, but nothing spectacular. Given its price, totally optional.
What really 'smashes' is Emperor's Wit/Mastery. But the price tag on those is quite 'smashing' too. :)
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djnat wrote:
8. Storm Weaver > Snowforged.
Inc effect of chill vs Inc crit chance. CD cancels the extra crit chance anyway, I see how Storm Weaver is better in that case. Do you feel comfortable with EO uptime?
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Posted byKelvynn#6607on Dec 18, 2018, 12:15:37 PM
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The fact in Might of the Meek is that you have about the same damage of a good rare jewel + frost walker + the small node leading to it, but with two less passives invested. I.E. the build is completed at level 89, which is good.
Yes, Storm Weaver is better because controlled destruction lowers the crit to the base value of 5% anyway. 20% extra mana regen is good too, until proper crafting is applied to the rings.
EO uptime is 100% in mapping, and from what I can see, it's near 100% even in non-multiphasing bosses.
I like this Whispering Ice version A LOT, btw. The Occultist's tankiness is awesome, and we can play around it to balance the damage. :)
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Posted bydjnat#4628on Dec 18, 2018, 1:12:15 PM
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djnat wrote:
The fact in Might of the Meek is that you have about the same damage of a good rare jewel + frost walker + the small node leading to it, but with two less passives invested. I.E. the build is completed at level 89, which is good.
Yes, Storm Weaver is better because controlled destruction lowers the crit to the base value of 5% anyway. 20% extra mana regen is good too, until proper crafting is applied to the rings.
EO uptime is 100% in mapping, and from what I can see, it's near 100% even in non-multiphasing bosses.
I like this Whispering Ice version A LOT, btw. The Occultist's tankiness is awesome, and we can play around it to balance the damage. :)
OH!!!
I never noticed that storm weaver have mana regeneration!
Thank you so much, now i have almost complete uptime of 5-linked winter orb without leech.
Insufficient mana in winter orb clear mode was my greatest pain in the ass, so yeah, i would like mana regen much more than crit that will be up anyway :)
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Posted byMed1umentor#6844on Dec 18, 2018, 1:31:17 PM
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djnat wrote:
Hi there!
3. Running two different setups on Whispering ice staves is the way to go.
The clearspeed setup is WO | CWC | GMP | Hypo | Cold pen | Spell cascade (to be fully optimized it requires a 5L with only Spell cascade out of the linked gems). To go for it, btw, you need some ring crafting to reduce the mana cost of skills, or it becomes difficult / near to impossible to sustain.
In the single target setup you just replace GMP with Controlled destruction and Spell cascade with Conc effect.
I want to try this quite badly, but I have yet to find a single damn -Mana cost craft, yet alone enough to get the upgraded version. I even have a nice prefix on my uncorrupted ring just waiting for it. I may need to find a service. :(
Good take on the build, you have nearly the same thoughts on everything as I do. Finding this one of the most fun builds I've run in a long time.
Thank again to Kelvynn and to everyone spitballing ideas.
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Posted byBreken#4127on Dec 18, 2018, 1:41:56 PM
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Breken wrote:
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djnat wrote:
Hi there!
3. Running two different setups on Whispering ice staves is the way to go.
The clearspeed setup is WO | CWC | GMP | Hypo | Cold pen | Spell cascade (to be fully optimized it requires a 5L with only Spell cascade out of the linked gems). To go for it, btw, you need some ring crafting to reduce the mana cost of skills, or it becomes difficult / near to impossible to sustain.
In the single target setup you just replace GMP with Controlled destruction and Spell cascade with Conc effect.
I want to try this quite badly, but I have yet to find a single damn -Mana cost craft, yet alone enough to get the upgraded version. I even have a nice prefix on my uncorrupted ring just waiting for it. I may need to find a service. :(
Good take on the build, you have nearly the same thoughts on everything as I do. Finding this one of the most fun builds I've run in a long time.
Thank again to Kelvynn and to everyone spitballing ideas.
Just saying that you need to have elreon in your syndicate chart to even have a chance to get it. Item with that veiled mod can be dropped only from elreon. Which is sucks, because elreon sucks, and i get rid of him long ago... :(
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Posted byMed1umentor#6844on Dec 18, 2018, 1:56:35 PM
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Important: Blood Rage should be between CWDT and IC. They trigger in that order, and that's important. Do not insert Blood Rage until you upgrade Arakaali. Read the section 'About Blood Rage'.
When you say BR must be between CwDT and IC, you mean literally ?
BTW, I imagine it's useless to capture the two last god's souls for Arakaali ; only Queen of the Great Tangle is useful.
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Posted byThezibaim#4718on Dec 18, 2018, 2:30:30 PM
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Med1umentor wrote:
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djnat wrote:
Hi there!
3. Running two different setups on Whispering ice staves is the way to go.
The clearspeed setup is WO | CWC | GMP | Hypo | Cold pen | Spell cascade (to be fully optimized it requires a 5L with only Spell cascade out of the linked gems). To go for it, btw, you need some ring crafting to reduce the mana cost of skills, or it becomes difficult / near to impossible to sustain.
In the single target setup you just replace GMP with Controlled destruction and Spell cascade with Conc effect.
I want to try this quite badly, but I have yet to find a single damn -Mana cost craft, yet alone enough to get the upgraded version. I even have a nice prefix on my uncorrupted ring just waiting for it. I may need to find a service. :(
Good take on the build, you have nearly the same thoughts on everything as I do. Finding this one of the most fun builds I've run in a long time.
Thank again to Kelvynn and to everyone spitballing ideas.
Just saying that you need to have elreon in your syndicate chart to even have a chance to get it. Item with that veiled mod can be dropped only from elreon. Which is sucks, because elreon sucks, and i get rid of him long ago... :(
I don't have any problems with mana and running 5l wo setup, maybe very rarely. I'm using vitality cuz I got jewel so i have only 5% of mana unreserved (80-90 mana). Got mana flask(for clearing no regen maps) and enchant on boots, a little bit another tree (~+50% mana regen).
P.S. Using blood rage feels bad most of the time, so i'm rarely using it...
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Posted byEtoXzy#1724on Dec 18, 2018, 2:38:12 PM
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