[3.6] The Blizz Sorc - Icestorm/Winter Orb CI Occultist - Viable For Everything

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naferit wrote:

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Med1umentor wrote:

Other option is buy 3 garbage explicit mods of the same type, scour them, and then alteration craft mod that you desire. Then regal and annul (50% chance of annuling).

Its expansive AF...
3 rings with 40+ int in fr mode - scour - regal - annul = ring with flat int impl

And i'm blind or there is no tier 1 and 2 in poedb with int on rings?

If t2 is not inc int = not worth it at all

I just stated that there is an "option". Because it would be really difficult to find 3 amulets with fractured 55+ int in each. And not really expensive "AF". For 3 amulets it would be about 4.5 regals and annuls, and some alterations to roll 1 mod of high tier. Annul is 10c... sure it's not starter equip for 1c each item, but calling this price "expensive AF" is crealy overstatement.
If we are talking about previous tiers, and clean fractured options is cheap enough, it's preferable to use those, of course.

But then again, now that as Breken said, there is now almost certain possibility, that implicits with several strings are not combined, but randomly chosen between them. If so - yeah, not even worth it.

"my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined" :(

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Med1umentor wrote:

But then again, now that as Breken said, there is now almost certain possibility, that implicits with several strings are not combined, but randomly chosen between them. If so - yeah, not even worth it.

"my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined" :(

I'm pretty sure it works like this:

item 1:

fr mode A
fr mode B
mode C

item 2
fr mode B
mode C
mode D

item 3:
fr mode A
dome D

Game randomly chose 1 dome (or 2 if there 2 fr modes) and callculate what tier you will get.

So it can chose bettwen
fr mode A
fr mode B
mode C
mode D


So option with alt cpaming is absurdli timeconsuming =\

Unless you are SSF, you should have a few chaos by now to get some gear. A lot of cheap uniques go for 1 alchemy btw.

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Hellsmith wrote:

Am I the only one having a tough time leveling?

Currently level 50 with a 5S staff, life leech feels like its doing absolutely nothing for me and im taking a ton of damage.

I leveled with Winter orb CwC freezing pulse until i can afford INT stuff. It was easy for me.

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naferit wrote:

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Med1umentor wrote:

But then again, now that as Breken said, there is now almost certain possibility, that implicits with several strings are not combined, but randomly chosen between them. If so - yeah, not even worth it.

"my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined" :(

I'm pretty sure it works like this:

item 1:

fr mode A
fr mode B
mode C

item 2
fr mode B
mode C
mode D

item 3:
fr mode A
dome D

Game randomly chose 1 dome (or 2 if there 2 fr modes) and callculate what tier you will get.

So it can chose bettwen
fr mode A
fr mode B
mode C
mode D


So option with alt cpaming is absurdli timeconsuming =\

I don't really get your point, sorry. Can you explain it better?
From what can it choose i agree, but it was never a question to argue about.
Number of fractured modes is about granting several implicit, i presume. I don't want several implicits, i just cursed the fact that i can't get for example "onslaught together with 8% MS", or "15% increase int together with 1% increase damage by 10 int", those are not combined as i thought earlier, they probably just random between 2. I don't care about 2 implicit from different category.

So... i don't understand why your info make alt-spamming "time-consuming"?
Alt-spamming is time consuming by default, if we are talking about it. But with fractured mod it's actually way faster than before, because we need to roll only 1 mod, instead of 2. If 1 minute of alt-spamming is timeconsuming... i don't know what else to say.
And if you are talking about alt-spamming on item with double fractured mod, then it's not "time consuming", but rather "impossible" in the first place, because you can't use alt to get 3 mod, and 2 previous is unchangeable...
Wait, now that i think about - i saw items with 2 fractured suffixes... what will happen when we will scour it? Obviously magic item can't have 2 suffix, will it be rare? hm... will check it out in the future.

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R40H wrote:

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Hellsmith wrote:

Am I the only one having a tough time leveling?

Currently level 50 with a 5S staff, life leech feels like its doing absolutely nothing for me and im taking a ton of damage.

I leveled with Winter orb CwC freezing pulse until i can afford INT stuff. It was easy for me.

Hmm yesterday evening I started and goes great, especially from level 38. Anyway, with each character, the look is similar, regardless of the final build, so it does not show well how you have such problems at level 50.

For now, the only thing that i have a bit problem me is mana, in the last league I played Storm Brand Ascendant at Leech and it was great to use Elder Ring with the mode "Curse Enemies with Level 8/12 Warlord's Mark on Hit" will give you an extra 2% ES leech, 2 % mana leech and practically all 3 Endurance Charge. I think its a great option for this build too.

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loczek123 wrote:

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R40H wrote:

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Hellsmith wrote:

Am I the only one having a tough time leveling?

Currently level 50 with a 5S staff, life leech feels like its doing absolutely nothing for me and im taking a ton of damage.

I leveled with Winter orb CwC freezing pulse until i can afford INT stuff. It was easy for me.

Hmm yesterday evening I started and goes great, especially from level 38. Anyway, with each character, the look is similar, regardless of the final build, so it does not show well how you have such problems at level 50.

For now, the only thing that i have a bit problem me is mana, in the last league I played Storm Brand Ascendant at Leech and it was great to use Elder Ring with the mode "Curse Enemies with Level 8/12 Warlord's Mark on Hit" will give you an extra 2% ES leech, 2 % mana leech and practically all 3 Endurance Charge. I think its a great option for this build too.

Ya I have never had issues before. Its going better now that I have my resists and more hp, but the game was really making it rough on me with upgrades/drops. I hate to admit it but I've died 40 times to get lvl 60. /facepalm

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Med1umentor wrote:

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AsbelFar wrote:

What about the explicit itself? If it's a prefix, depending on the values I think it's a pretty nice one, not a lot of useful prefixes on rings

Wow, i edited my answer here, i thought you talking about different thing.
About explicit - where did you find about it? I know that we can have it on belt, but never heard about rings.
On belt it's almost BiS, on rings will not be any different, if it's possible.

In the list here: https://poedb.tw/us/ItemSynthesisMods

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AsbelFar wrote:

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Med1umentor wrote:

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AsbelFar wrote:

What about the explicit itself? If it's a prefix, depending on the values I think it's a pretty nice one, not a lot of useful prefixes on rings

Wow, i edited my answer here, i thought you talking about different thing.
About explicit - where did you find about it? I know that we can have it on belt, but never heard about rings.
On belt it's almost BiS, on rings will not be any different, if it's possible.

In the list here: https://poedb.tw/us/ItemSynthesisMods

Yeah, i thought that you saw some kind of "presentation of the new features" or something like that.

I checked, it's not a "new modifier". It's a delve suffix that can appear if you use dense fossil.
For some reason, i never heard that it can appear anywhere else other than belt, but apparently it was always there for rings and amulets too.

P.S. It also means that getting "discipline effect" modifier would be extremely hard. Not only that explicit can't be spawned naturally, and therefore can't be "fractured mod". It's also can only be spawned with quite expensive fossil, that also generate tons of other mods, so annulment is unlikely.

Looking for a little advice. I am currently using the 2 staff set up and I am Level 72 and starting to get some gear (about 4.4k ES @ 960 Int)

1. When running staff #1 in a 6S/4L setup with GMP:CWC:WO:Cold Pen being linked, I constantly run out of mana. Not so much on the staff where I don't use GMP.

2. I tried a T3 map at level 70 and constantly died using the setup with the GMP on Staff #1, seemed to be ok with face tanking the boss with staff #2 though. I ran Ice Golemancer last season and was constantly do maps with mob level 4 or 5 levels higher than my char level, Am I doing something wrong or was I just spoiled with that build?