[3.6] The Blizz Sorc - Icestorm/Winter Orb CI Occultist - Viable For Everything

How can i increase my shield im onl 500 shield and that hurt me

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stephenp1983 wrote:

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Kofajs wrote:

If I try firestorm handcasting, it work with spell cascade. When I try to channeling WO with CwC firestorm cascade does not work. It doesnt look like bug, but intended change. If that is really the case, I bet energy shield leech will not work too :( maybe some hidden CwC nerf? I hope not, but I am not optimist. But it is strange that they didnt mention anything in patch notes.

You are saying the issue may also be with the ES leech gem, not leeching in ES in general right?

Yes, sorry for that. I changed it, so no one get confused :)

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Kofajs wrote:

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stephenp1983 wrote:

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Kofajs wrote:

If I try firestorm handcasting, it work with spell cascade. When I try to channeling WO with CwC firestorm cascade does not work. It doesnt look like bug, but intended change. If that is really the case, I bet energy shield leech will not work too :( maybe some hidden CwC nerf? I hope not, but I am not optimist. But it is strange that they didnt mention anything in patch notes.

You are saying the issue may also be with the ES leech gem, not leeching in ES in general right?

Yes, sorry for that. I changed it, so no one get confused :)

lol thanks for clarifying at first I was worried your were saying it was a bug in general :)

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Draagz wrote:

How can i increase my shield im onl 500 shield and that hurt me

Early on, you don't really rely on Energy Shield - get some life on your gear pieces ASAP. Plus, use the leveling guide and trees rather than the full tree (which is tailored to the Chaos Inoculation version of the build).

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LupusImmortalis wrote:

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Draagz wrote:

How can i increase my shield im onl 500 shield and that hurt me

Early on, you don't really rely on Energy Shield - get some life on your gear pieces ASAP. Plus, use the leveling guide and trees rather than the full tree (which is tailored to the Chaos Inoculation version of the build).

Kinda fucked up then, but then what would be optimal health on act 6 ?

Spell Cascade is either broken or stealth nerfed not to work with CwC anymore.

This is not important for leveling, can go with CE, EF, Cold Pen. But the clear speed will suffer without SC. Let's wait for some answers from GGG.

So are we dead without leech? It seems leech is zero ;c

found something on poedb (could not confirm with prev versions)



in excluded types there is "triggered spells" ice storm is technically triggered by CwC, so it must be it, we know for sure that CwC breaks SC

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Kelvynn wrote:

Spell Cascade is either broken or stealth nerfed not to work with CwC anymore.

This is not important for leveling, can go with CE, EF, Cold Pen. But the clear speed will suffer without SC. Let's wait for some answers from GGG.

Considering that somebody posted that CwC block ES leech gem too, i kinda think that this is bug, and not a hidden nerf.

In case of spell cascade, i can still kinda understand, that cause we are not casting it directly (when spell cascade was first introduced, i actually thought that it wouldn't work with CwC and we will need to choose between SC or CwC).
But if ES leech gem not working too, it's different issue. It's just dumb and unjustifiable in any way. So i would bet on "bug" option.

Well, on the other hand it can be both. Trying to promote selfcasting (which is pretty much title of current patch), they hidden nerfed CwC, and while hidden nerfing CwC broke connections with other things too :)

as for ES leech, im only 58 but i think it works all right

1. there is no similiar exclude tag on spell in poedb, only that it affects hits and attacks, icestorm hits
2. after yo utake dmg ES regen on my char stops for 2 sec, as expected, but if i rush into big pack i can see that my ES is still recovering eventhou im getting hit, there is no 2sec stop, im not using pantheon or blood rage or any other mechanics, jsut pure simple icestorm damage

ps. and icestorm tooltip lists ES leech


as opposed to spell cascade

ps2. still it's just an observation, it will become more obvious on higher lvls and after switching to CI and full ES