[3.13] SPECTRE SUMMONER (2021 Edition) Necromancer Build. BEST League Starter! + VIDEO GUIDE!

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btormar wrote:
Really enjoying the build so far, just finished uber lab and a bit torn on what ascendancy skill to pick.

I know the guide says Puppet Master/Commander of Darkness, but does anyone have thoughts on swapping one of them for Bone Sculptor?

With extra skeletons, plus using Vaal Skeletons, wouldn't this add more dps, particularly for bosses/betrayal encounters?

For single target yes. For spectres - no
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Just killed uber elder and while my AG did occasionally drop down to 60-70% even with minion life, it survived the fight. And that was without manual convocation.
Using Lioneyes' Paws boots now to make it deal fire damage.
Last edited by blingi#3223 on Jan 12, 2019, 4:52:59 AM
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blingi wrote:
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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

I am just not so sure such an investment is needed at all honestly. Basically if i unlick ignite = you have same damage as in my pob.
But it made me thinking about Combustion tbh. Shows me more damage than Elemental Focus, and ignite can actually stack


Not sure what investment you mean. I have a free socket in my helmet and have to put a specific piece on AG for a ~19% damage boost.
That investment is more than worth it.

I'm running enfeeble + purity for even more safety while you run anger, and even with that my damage is still a bit higher.
If you factor in EE and ignite it gets vastly higher.
I also get my shield for myself (again more safety) where you get the powercharges for your spectres.
And last but not least, I also have phase acrobatics so I can even facetank syndicate.

Damage wasn't even what I was trying to say though, I mainly just wanted to bring attention to how good acrobatics is in this build since it provides way more eHP than pure life, lets you save flasks and also fixes your dex problems. Especially if you go for necromantic aegis you already made half the investment needed to get there and can probably reach the same total life due to the life clusters around it.

The investment = you are gaining AG, but dropping Skeletons entirely.
You keep forgetting that i am using skeletons for single target and it gives me WAY MORE than 1 AG. In fact it gives me 1 million dps. And this is without counting Vaal Skeletons which just shred things into pieces.

Acrobatics is great though, i really liked the idea! And i really liked the tree as well. Just not gonna stretch out there myself i guess. But as a tweak i really like it and will definitely consider it
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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:
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blingi wrote:
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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:

I am just not so sure such an investment is needed at all honestly. Basically if i unlick ignite = you have same damage as in my pob.
But it made me thinking about Combustion tbh. Shows me more damage than Elemental Focus, and ignite can actually stack


Not sure what investment you mean. I have a free socket in my helmet and have to put a specific piece on AG for a ~19% damage boost.
That investment is more than worth it.

I'm running enfeeble + purity for even more safety while you run anger, and even with that my damage is still a bit higher.
If you factor in EE and ignite it gets vastly higher.
I also get my shield for myself (again more safety) where you get the powercharges for your spectres.
And last but not least, I also have phase acrobatics so I can even facetank syndicate.

Damage wasn't even what I was trying to say though, I mainly just wanted to bring attention to how good acrobatics is in this build since it provides way more eHP than pure life, lets you save flasks and also fixes your dex problems. Especially if you go for necromantic aegis you already made half the investment needed to get there and can probably reach the same total life due to the life clusters around it.

The investment = you are gaining AG, but dropping Skeletons entirely.
You keep forgetting that i am using skeletons for single target and it gives me WAY MORE than 1 AG. In fact it gives me 1 million dps. And this is without counting Vaal Skeletons which just shred things into pieces.

Acrobatics is great though, i really liked the idea! And i really liked the tree as well. Just not gonna stretch out there myself i guess. But as a tweak i really like it and will definitely consider it


That's just my preference. I tried making the build as lazy as possible, so I dropped the skeletons right at the start and played with zombies for a long time, but they kept dying to phys reflect and sometimes other stuff so I just went full into spectres and dropped all other dps minions.

Skeletons are undisputed the best single target skill summoners have (with the right investment) although their PoB dps is inflated since they are dead or moving to attack half the time after being resummoned.

I wasn't advocating my build over yours, just integrating acrobatics in any variation of the spectre summoner people might use (which should generally have similar results (-10% hp for a bunch of dex and dodge) and posted my build as an example of a tree that uses acrobatics.
Sorry if there was any confusion.
Last edited by blingi#3223 on Jan 12, 2019, 6:16:19 AM
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blingi wrote:
Just killed uber elder and while my AG did occasionally drop down to 60-70% even with minion life, it survived the fight. And that was without manual convocation.
Using Lioneyes' Paws boots now to make it deal fire damage.

Belly does the job i guess. I need to check how much life it gives compared to Bloodbond. I did many uber elder attempts on standard in the past month and AG was usually dead near the end of the fight
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blingi wrote:

That's just my preference. I tried making the build as lazy as possible, so I dropped the skeletons right at the start and played with zombies for a long time, but they kept dying to phys reflect and sometimes other stuff so I just went full into spectres and dropped all other dps minions.

Skeletons are undisputed the best single target skill summoners have (with the right investment) although their PoB dps is inflated since they are dead or moving to attack half the time after being resummoned.

I wasn't advocating my build over yours, just integrating acrobatics in any variation of the spectre summoner people might use (which should generally have similar results (-10% hp for a bunch of dex and dodge) and posted my build as an example of a tree that uses acrobatics.

And i am very thankful to you for posting your pob! This made me "thinking" about both Acrobatics and Combustion as well.
It's a pity that Combustion needs an actual skill attached... Otherwise i could get a free -fire res as i am using Anger which gives fire to both spectres and skeletons too.
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Angry_Roleplayer wrote:
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blingi wrote:
Just killed uber elder and while my AG did occasionally drop down to 60-70% even with minion life, it survived the fight. And that was without manual convocation.
Using Lioneyes' Paws boots now to make it deal fire damage.

Belly does the job i guess. I need to check how much life it gives compared to Bloodbond. I did many uber elder attempts on standard in the past month and AG was usually dead near the end of the fight


I actually did another uber elder just now since I got lucky with the elder influence spawn after my first one.

This time I dropped AG because I died twice from always glancing at my minion hp bar on my first kill.
The extra damage wasn't necessary at all with how much damage TVs do (using those over SG for uber elder). Takes maybe 2 seconds for them to reduce elder/shaper to the next 25%.
Skeletons aren't really necessary at all and I wouldn't wanna stop moving to resummon them.

Without worrying about AG I was able to fully focus on the fight and do it deathless on my second kill ever and it felt pretty good overall.

Definitely seems like a good build for farming this especially when you get a bit more used to the fight.
Last edited by blingi#3223 on Jan 12, 2019, 8:05:38 AM
Guys i really need your help.
I played an build from chupa(german allstars) witch spectres and zombies and this is my actual char:
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/igp_0wn3d/characters

I just played 5 times at all but i want to fix this char to do late-game stuff.
At the moment i rip realy often at t16 bosses, elder, ... and often they one-hit me.

What do you think, should i change something or should i reskill to this build here with skeleton etc?
I would appreciate it alot if you can give me help!
Thanks alot!,
Fabian
I don't know if you do any gear review or anything, but maybe you can give a look at my char? I'm struggling with getting one shot by some random things and syndicate. Just feeling SUPER SUPER squishy, and I have no idea why. Overall enjoying the build, just god damn getting my jimmies rustled by all these one bangs
What do you guys think about a elder helmet with minion dmg and immolate ,WEd?
Can we then put spectres on helmet and dont have to 6 link the armour right ? Not able to properly figure the damage from the POB though :/

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