[3.5] Hopeshredder Scourge Arrow | Fast beefy Mapper | Deathless Uber Elder (5M+ Shaper DPS)

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jobo0 wrote:

ok just a little question from me here: Because yoke allows our elemental damage to shock, wouldnt this build work with inpulsa to generate an inhuman clearspeed?

Can you clear faster than oneshotting? :thinking:
Inpulsa explosions aren't worth losing 1.5k life from Kaom's or the fantastic gains from Farrul's imo.

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InSynCeD wrote:

Heya guys,

Thanks for the extensive guide, i am actually gonna make one now since ive got a few ex to burn in Betrayal.

I just have a qeustion. Is there a reason why i wouldnt want mirage archer on my 6l Scourge arrow. It would seem like it wouldnt boost tooltip dps but would help ALOT with mobility at bosses.

If you have a second setup for a clearskill like RoA, Mirage on Scourge becomes irrelevant and it's better to take the much higher damage from Ice Bite/Added Cold.

If you do not (ie running Kaom's) then yeah, i'd run Mirage, I did.

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If you have a second setup for a clearskill like RoA, Mirage on Scourge becomes irrelevant and it's better to take the much higher damage from Ice Bite/Added Cold.

If you do not (ie running Kaom's) then yeah, i'd run Mirage, I did.

Thanks for the explaination :)

A word to the wise about fully optimizing V2/balancing your budget:
Leave Unnatural Instinct for dead last!
I've been playing around extensively while figuring out my best upgrade path, and Unnatural, while a solid upgrade, is definitely the least "bang for your buck", ie least cost-efficient.

Some other details you should be aware of:

- a 1s Tombfist with +1 Frenzy is a far greater DPS upgrade than 2s Tombfist without, and costs 1/3
- a 1s Bubonic with 120 added Lightning damage is almost as good as a 2s Bubonic with an expensive jewel, and costs a fraction
- optimized 2s Tombfists/Bubonics with the right corrupts/enchants are *BY FAR* the highest upgrades you can get after Farrul's/Cat's item for your V2 setup

Finally, it has been mentioned several times in the thread already, but cannot be emphasized enough: USE WAR BANNER. Not for the accuracy or anything else, it give us ADRENALINE. Tick it in your PoB, and you will see the massive increase (Champion Ascendancy ability).

I do not understand where to take charges on the bosses in the version with kaom? 10% of the raider is quite small

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MoyaOborona wrote:

I do not understand where to take charges on the bosses in the version with kaom? 10% of the raider is quite small

It can take a while, and is one of the reasons why Farrul's/Cat's is so amazing.

You can use Ralakesh's Impatience boots to stack up all charges before engaging an instanced fight like Shaper/Elder though.

(this is mentioned in the OP)

can you check my gear/build? i really idk but im so fucking squishy with "decent" gear, nearly 6k life @ lvl 89, res capped, all might of the meek jewels, etc and getting random 1 shots a lot of times

https://pastebin.com/99FXZr1f

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HashFTW wrote:

can you check my gear/build? i really idk but im so fucking squishy with "decent" gear, nearly 6k life @ lvl 89, res capped, all might of the meek jewels, etc and getting random 1 shots a lot of times

https://pastebin.com/99FXZr1f

I've found that i feel quite a bit safer after switching to Farrul's/Jugg Ascendancy, stun/chill immunity and Endurance Charges make a big difference, despite losing 1k life (only at 5.6 atm without Unnatural/extra jewels).

You get oneshot here and there with the Kaom's version, it happens.

I will personally probably skip 1 Abyss Jewel and grab Phase Acrobatics instead on the tree eventually, there is no need for the 5% or so more damage from one extra jewel and 10% more attack dodge/30% spell dodge are quite invaluable.

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Miffy23 wrote:

A word to the wise about fully optimizing V2/balancing your budget:
Leave Unnatural Instinct for dead last!
I've been playing around extensively while figuring out my best upgrade path, and Unnatural, while a solid upgrade, is definitely the least "bang for your buck", ie least cost-efficient.

Some other details you should be aware of:

- a 1s Tombfist with +1 Frenzy is a far greater DPS upgrade than 2s Tombfist without, and costs 1/3
- a 1s Bubonic with 120 added Lightning damage is almost as good as a 2s Bubonic with an expensive jewel, and costs a fraction
- optimized 2s Tombfists/Bubonics with the right corrupts/enchants are *BY FAR* the highest upgrades you can get after Farrul's/Cat's item for your V2 setup

Finally, it has been mentioned several times in the thread already, but cannot be emphasized enough: USE WAR BANNER. Not for the accuracy or anything else, it give us ADRENALINE. Tick it in your PoB, and you will see the massive increase (Champion Ascendancy ability).

So i'm a bit torn. I'm currently leveling with the intention of running a 6L loreweave with RoA for clear and ended up getting a natural UI drop. I have about 6ex in the bank. I took it as a sign and was just planning on using it in my v1 setup so to speak. Farruls just feels so expensive. I currently still need to purchase rings/belt so not quite 6ex liquid.

That being said, it seems that it may be better for me to sell the UI and get a pair of frenzy tombs/2 sock bubonics? I know it's hard without having all my gear finalized, but just trying to plan ahead a bit.

I appreciate the insight

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dperls wrote:

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Miffy23 wrote:

A word to the wise about fully optimizing V2/balancing your budget:
Leave Unnatural Instinct for dead last!
I've been playing around extensively while figuring out my best upgrade path, and Unnatural, while a solid upgrade, is definitely the least "bang for your buck", ie least cost-efficient.

Some other details you should be aware of:

- a 1s Tombfist with +1 Frenzy is a far greater DPS upgrade than 2s Tombfist without, and costs 1/3
- a 1s Bubonic with 120 added Lightning damage is almost as good as a 2s Bubonic with an expensive jewel, and costs a fraction
- optimized 2s Tombfists/Bubonics with the right corrupts/enchants are *BY FAR* the highest upgrades you can get after Farrul's/Cat's item for your V2 setup

Finally, it has been mentioned several times in the thread already, but cannot be emphasized enough: USE WAR BANNER. Not for the accuracy or anything else, it give us ADRENALINE. Tick it in your PoB, and you will see the massive increase (Champion Ascendancy ability).

So i'm a bit torn. I'm currently leveling with the intention of running a 6L loreweave with RoA for clear and ended up getting a natural UI drop. I have about 6ex in the bank. I took it as a sign and was just planning on using it in my v1 setup so to speak. Farruls just feels so expensive. I currently still need to purchase rings/belt so not quite 6ex liquid.

That being said, it seems that it may be better for me to sell the UI and get a pair of frenzy tombs/2 sock bubonics? I know it's hard without having all my gear finalized, but just trying to plan ahead a bit.

I appreciate the insight

In my setup Unnatural gives me about 1 extra jewel socket and a tiny bit more life/movement speed compared to the Might of the Meek in that slot. Overall it is an upgrade, but it's a minor one compared to all the other stuff i mentioned.

Farrul's with a Cat item is without question the biggest improvement to the build you can get, along with the inherent Ascendancy switch to Jugg. You will be tankier, faster, deal more damage and not have to worry about charges anymore.

The price right now is a bit over the top, i was lucky enough got get a good 6l for 28 ex two days ago. It will probably dip down a bit again before long, but overall this league has been one of top meta items absolutely exploding in price, with mediocre to good rares being worth almost nothing. Content is very accessible, crafting good items very easy, maps are dropping in ungodly amounts, so all the currency is going to mandatory meta items and top tier stuff.

But is it worth it? Absolutely.

I also had a natural UI drop early on with the character, sold it to fund initial V1. UI is a good, solid upgrade but it doesn't make or break the build, nor is it the biggest upgrade in moving to V2.

Up to you whether you want to save for Farrul's or invest into better V1 items that will carry over to V2 eventually. That second option is probably the safer choice, as V1 can farm the same content almost as well as V2, and 2s Bubonics with a good Eternal Lab enchant are a *massive* upgrade for example. Same with +1 Frenzy Tombies (even with 1 socket).

Started keeping an eye on this build since version 2 was posted because I've always wanted to play around with aspects. Now that I've finally got the money, I've gotta say it is a very fun build at the highest level. Uber elder deathless with this gear, thanks for a fun one.

I hope its worth something :)