[3.4] KissMeQuick's Pet Viper Strike | Starter for FRIENDS to fight against UBER ELDER with FRIENDS!

I've been using the herald with increased minion speed, it makes a big difference in the crawlers ability to keep up with you. Has anyone else tried that out?

Idk why people are trying to desperately to change the skill, I'm finding it great, as soon as you get multi strike it feels pretty smooth, minion bops packs, viper strike wrecks bosses. It's great.

Pretty solid so far. Damage has not been a problem really yet. My only concern is how it will continue to scale. Feel like there might be a wall coming up for me but we'll see.

At T4 maps currently, progressing upwards. Assume I'll need Breath of the Council around T10s and some other upgrades. I just feel like I'm pushing these major DPS upgrades early, and am not sure how much room there is for scaling past things like guardians, shaper, etc...or even how hard it will be to scale just to get past the guardians.

Anyway, thank you for the build, definitely interesting...My concern lies in how it will scale

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sullisaur wrote:

Idk why people are trying to desperately to change the skill, I'm finding it great, as soon as you get multi strike it feels pretty smooth, minion bops packs, viper strike wrecks bosses. It's great.

Because viper strike is a targeting skill, and we using claw mean that the range is way to shit you have to literaly jump into the pack and hit. Since it's build only for single dps and only sub in for melee splash for aoe make it's not better either. The minion from the herald ai is kinda bad and in map that has wall and shit it's 90% of the time hit the wall. I switch to BF and it's feel like 10 time better. And believe me with the minion setup like in the op post the clear speed is not that good, i have to sub in pierce for him to even feel good with clear speed.

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BlueJasminez wrote:

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sullisaur wrote:

Idk why people are trying to desperately to change the skill, I'm finding it great, as soon as you get multi strike it feels pretty smooth, minion bops packs, viper strike wrecks bosses. It's great.

Because viper strike is a targeting skill, and we using claw mean that the range is way to shit you have to literaly jump into the pack and hit. Since it's build only for single dps and only sub in for melee splash for aoe make it's not better either. The minion from the herald ai is kinda bad and in map that has wall and shit it's 90% of the time hit the wall. I switch to BF and it's feel like 10 time better. And believe me with the minion setup like in the op post the clear speed is not that good, i have to sub in pierce for him to even feel good with clear speed.

You can use attack without moving or shift button as well = you now have BF. BF Also isn't a Chaos Skill so you actually have less range than BF. BF also doesn't get Unholy Might nor scaling from jewel.

You're talking about Pierce as it's a bad thing. Pierce is a MORE multiplier which I even use in my VPS Elementalist build. Already for damage, it's one of the best options. I have no clue what this bad minion AI is and I clear maps super fast on a 5L although I have money for 20 6 links already.

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

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BlueJasminez wrote:

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sullisaur wrote:

Idk why people are trying to desperately to change the skill, I'm finding it great, as soon as you get multi strike it feels pretty smooth, minion bops packs, viper strike wrecks bosses. It's great.

Because viper strike is a targeting skill, and we using claw mean that the range is way to shit you have to literaly jump into the pack and hit. Since it's build only for single dps and only sub in for melee splash for aoe make it's not better either. The minion from the herald ai is kinda bad and in map that has wall and shit it's 90% of the time hit the wall. I switch to BF and it's feel like 10 time better. And believe me with the minion setup like in the op post the clear speed is not that good, i have to sub in pierce for him to even feel good with clear speed.

You can use attack without moving or shift button as well = you now have BF. BF Also isn't a Chaos Skill so you actually have less range than BF. BF also doesn't get Unholy Might nor scaling from jewel.

You're talking about Pierce as it's a bad thing. Pierce is a MORE multiplier which I even use in my VPS Elementalist build. Already for damage, it's one of the best options. I have no clue what this bad minion AI is and I clear maps super fast on a 5L although I have money for 20 6 links already.

why u use haemophilia gloves instead of the embalmer? u was say what the embalmer its a BIS gloves

Hi its quite better now with Herald of Agony and Melee Physical Damage. When is it time to buy one of the items you have listed? Is this at level 60 or later?.

Is there a easy way to know which gems are available at which time at story?
I run into problems with lack of intelligence. What is a good price for the gem "Fertile Mind". Its currently 2-3C.

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seeeether wrote:

why u use haemophilia gloves instead of the embalmer? u was say what the embalmer its a BIS gloves

Your guess is as good as mine, but it is an extra damage over time effect. But with those gloves, bleeding enemies explode doing 5% of their life which helps AoE clear some more, especially the higher you go into Delve it could be relevant for min-maxing the mines.

Im at 86 and pretty happpy with the Build so far.
My only Question is if the Coralitos Flask is worth using befor Endgame Bosses?
My Poison duration is 8.8 sec without it. Most Mapbosses dont even live that long. And since it gives Perfect Agony it reduces hit damage by 30%.

This is where i stand with the build barely into act 7.


damage and clearspeed is more than acceptable with mortem morsu and shield and a 4l. viper strike > melee splash > vile toxins > lesser poison.but I do wonder if a better 4l setup would improve it. Multistrike is nice if you have a 5 or 6l im sure but it doesn't even seem worth swapping out melee splash during act bosses. maybe Kitava though. Im lazy and absolutely hate gem swapping for bosses though.


Herald of Agony is great. no question. I'm questionable on herald of purity though, i cant really tell if these things are even doing anything. seems like they spend more time running around than fighting.


my biggest complaint is claw + viper strike = you gotta kiss the enemies to hit them, the range is almost frustratingly small.