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leorina1990 wrote:
May I ask,how you will spawn the spider if theres no minion at the boss area?





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While monsters spawned through Vaal Breach grant no experience or item drops, it is still a very useful gem. It can be used to reliably proc effects suchs as "On Kill", "On Crit" or "On Hit"


They cost about 20c

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Delirium/RrvBI7


It won't really help for endgame bosses like Sirus with no monster at all to get souls.
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Last edited by kayella#0845 on Mar 24, 2020, 9:27:49 PM
Hi to all, hi Kayella :)

Precisely looking for you for the last 3 leagues, thank you for your content of spectre diving :)

There was this spectre in the thread, but people mostly ignoring it - https://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Mindweave+Sentinel (MS), it looks gorgeous as on date on T14-T16 maps with minimum budget.

I've tried already all described in this thread spectres, and still MS looks pretty even or even better.
SD of course is still highest DPS and killing, but as soon as you need for them additional layer of defences, it takes more nodes. Where for MS i've took out all the defensive nodes(bonus hp, regen and etc) and still this spectres are immortal, i have 1 jewel for 0,3 % life leech and happy as a child:)

What is missing for this spectres - cast speed and projectile speed. That's why want to make for them Pledge of Hands with GMP+FPS, on boss killing swap GMP for deathmark.

As soon as i will have enough exalts - will provide the status report :)

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zhibg wrote:
In fact, opposite of what Kay says, i spawn spiders since they block the boss from moving around too much and EVF can actually apply their DPS more frequently. (PS, i spawn spiders just before the boss fight and i swap melee splash with damage on full life before i spawn them. damage boost against boss from spiders is 50% more.)

I tried bone barrier. Didn't like it. Perhaps it depends on the play style of the player. I do not like to have to worry about yet another button to spam. Took Overcharged instead of Melding. also got another endurance point from the tree left bottom. Constantly running with 4 endurance changes which will be good synergy for the Immortal Call.


Nice idea with the Overcharged. With the spiders killing quickly, you should be at full charges most of the time. Do you use 20/20 IC?


Have you noticed any problems with spiders blocking the EVF? Minions can body block each other. That's why zombie builds become inefficient if you have too many of them. Boss killing always feels slower with spiders up and I see fewer Elemental Hit swings. That's why I suggest despawning the spiders.

I'm also using HFT + culling strike in the weapon swap to finish off bosses faster!

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kayella wrote:
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leorina1990 wrote:
May I ask,how you will spawn the spider if theres no minion at the boss area?





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While monsters spawned through Vaal Breach grant no experience or item drops, it is still a very useful gem. It can be used to reliably proc effects suchs as "On Kill", "On Crit" or "On Hit"


They cost about 20c

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Delirium/RrvBI7


It won't really help for endgame bosses like Sirus with no monster at all to get souls.


Hi Kay, Thank you for your response!
I am looking forward to your spider and spec build video.

As now I am already max out everything on your advise build for spec and spider build.

I am looking forward for the end game build,can I use POH on spec and spider build when I encounter for the boss fight?
Last edited by leorina1990#4443 on Mar 24, 2020, 10:08:49 PM
Hi Kay,

For spider/spectre setup, where is the best possible location to place a cluster jewel? DO you have an updated passive skill tree for it?

Also, do the nodes in a cluster jewel stack?
Hello everyone, again to you for advice, there is a jewel, but it has the property Minions deal 1 to 5 additional cold damage. Will this affect EE?
Minions don't proc EE
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kayella wrote:
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zhibg wrote:
In fact, opposite of what Kay says, i spawn spiders since they block the boss from moving around too much and EVF can actually apply their DPS more frequently. (PS, i spawn spiders just before the boss fight and i swap melee splash with damage on full life before i spawn them. damage boost against boss from spiders is 50% more.)

I tried bone barrier. Didn't like it. Perhaps it depends on the play style of the player. I do not like to have to worry about yet another button to spam. Took Overcharged instead of Melding. also got another endurance point from the tree left bottom. Constantly running with 4 endurance changes which will be good synergy for the Immortal Call.


Nice idea with the Overcharged. With the spiders killing quickly, you should be at full charges most of the time. Do you use 20/20 IC?


Have you noticed any problems with spiders blocking the EVF? Minions can body block each other. That's why zombie builds become inefficient if you have too many of them. Boss killing always feels slower with spiders up and I see fewer Elemental Hit swings. That's why I suggest despawning the spiders.

I'm also using HFT + culling strike in the weapon swap to finish off bosses faster!



I am not a lucky player, i lost 3 AG's and i don't think i can afford to risk TKM at this moment. I really focused to see if spiders somehow block the hits from EVF but so far i saw no suspicious re-positioning of EVF or unexplained wandering around. Spiders+ EVF+Carrion Golem they all sit next to the boss and apply dps. When boss moves, EVF usually ground slams on top of it and continues. Right now i am experimenting with the level of IC, i personally believe it should not be that sensitive. Activating around 15 to 20% of HP loss is good safety limit to consider danger approaches.
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zhibg wrote:
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automecanic wrote:
What can you say to me about BT vs EVF in bosses? Im ok with maps right now, I have the spiders and wolfs on kill (amulet craft), and im mapping fast enough. The problem is the spectres are not as usefull as i expect. If BT are more "active" than EVF, maybe i should switch.

And something i need to ask. I had some problems with the new league mechanics, i died a lot, so i switch from mistress of sacrifice to bone barrier and i think its worth. The other gem i was thinking to change was the spirit offering on the shield, for immortal call. What do you think about this change? Thank you.


Literally what i was here to check for. I need more suitability and i fully intend to swap the damage boost of the offerings with immortal call + incr duration. I have tested the BT's, for an hour, then i recolored my chest back and got back my EVF. Yes they are slow, but they hit hard and do not die. BT's are good only if you focus heavily on minion damage and survival. I focused on survival myself and EVF's provide enough to get the boss done. In fact, opposite of what Kay says, i spawn spiders since they block the boss from moving around too much and EVF can actually apply their DPS more frequently. (PS, i spawn spiders just before the boss fight and i swap melee splash with damage on full life before i spawn them. damage boost against boss from spiders is 50% more.)

I tried bone barrier. Didn't like it. Perhaps it depends on the play style of the player. I do not like to have to worry about yet another button to spam. Took Overcharged instead of Melding. also got another endurance point from the tree left bottom. Constantly running with 4 endurance changes which will be good synergy for the Immortal Call.


I'd really like to see how you deal with T16 blight maps, and how you reach like step 7 in delirium rewards with just spiders !
And for me, well, thats what this league is about ? ^^

All in all, BT are the great winner for the current league to me :
- HUGE AE, barely close to SOlar guards to me
- HUGE single target dps. Yeah if the target is super fast and runs everywhere their AE may miss but well, it's the same for most spectres
- they die a lot less than SD for me (SD = 100% life / BT 400+%)

And @zhibg I dont see where you get an offering ? without any offering, Mistress of Sacrifice is such a loss :(
Last edited by Thanarchy#0786 on Mar 24, 2020, 11:41:10 PM
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