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Switching from spiders and evf to mom build using solar guards.. Is anger aura worth it for sg? Anger, skitterbots and zealotry on helmet. Thnx.
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automecanic wrote:
What can you say to me about BT vs EVF in bosses? Im ok with maps right now, I have the spiders and wolfs on kill (amulet craft), and im mapping fast enough. The problem is the spectres are not as usefull as i expect. If BT are more "active" than EVF, maybe i should switch.

And something i need to ask. I had some problems with the new league mechanics, i died a lot, so i switch from mistress of sacrifice to bone barrier and i think its worth. The other gem i was thinking to change was the spirit offering on the shield, for immortal call. What do you think about this change? Thank you.


I've used EVF for the spectres and spiders build because they were the only hard hitting spectre in the past, but BT might be a good replacement.

I'm just working on a new build video, so I'll test BTs instead of EVF and see if it works well.

I have some new things to make mapping faster and improve boss killing as well.

Originally I use Spirit Offering beacause of ES recovery, but now I think you can use Bone Offering for block or IC.

Or maybe both Bone Offering and IC? Then you should use a cluster jewel with:
Enduring Ward
20% chance to gain an Endurance Charge when you Block
+6% Chance to Block Attack Damage while at Maximum Endurance Charges
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Hello everyone,

I'll start by saying this guide is fabulous, very well written and most of my usual questions were answered right away. Thank you!

This question is probably something being asked a lot (or not) around, before being flamed I've done my researches and you probably know the information can be throwing you left and right (some outdated, some misleading and some aren't really related to my specific issue).

I've been playing PoE on and off for a while, missed the 2-3 last leagues and came back for Delirium, and I picked this build this time.

Here is my question: I just got my 8th watchstone, getting slowly into tier 10+ maps and I'm starting to feel like I'm slowly falling behind (damage wise) and this is probably obvious.

Without making myself a step-by-step guide, I'd like to know what would be my best options to make up for that, I am not the greatest farmer so I'm on the low side of budget and my comprehension of the crafting system suck (reading and watching videos often to improve!)

TLDR; What would be the best value move/upgrade to increase my damage.

Character: efgodxSC https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/specialheph/characters

Thank you very much!

*ps* Yeah I'm still using Tabula, I have a chest trying to get it at least 5link lol
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specialheph wrote:
Hello everyone,

I'll start by saying this guide is fabulous, very well written and most of my usual questions were answered right away. Thank you!

This question is probably something being asked a lot (or not) around, before being flamed I've done my researches and you probably know the information can be throwing you left and right (some outdated, some misleading and some aren't really related to my specific issue).

I've been playing PoE on and off for a while, missed the 2-3 last leagues and came back for Delirium, and I picked this build this time.

Here is my question: I just got my 8th watchstone, getting slowly into tier 10+ maps and I'm starting to feel like I'm slowly falling behind (damage wise) and this is probably obvious.

Without making myself a step-by-step guide, I'd like to know what would be my best options to make up for that, I am not the greatest farmer so I'm on the low side of budget and my comprehension of the crafting system suck (reading and watching videos often to improve!)

TLDR; What would be the best value move/upgrade to increase my damage.

Character: efgodxSC https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/specialheph/characters

Thank you very much!

*ps* Yeah I'm still using Tabula, I have a chest trying to get it at least 5link lol


Step 1:
When I reach maps, I use essence of greed on a 5L. That will do for low tier reds. Upgrade to a 6L rare and use essence of greed on that as well. So basically, just run 3 spectres while you save up money for step 2.

Step 2:
Get gem level 25: +1 on boots (Bones of Ullr is a cheap way), +1 int amulet and Raise Spectre 21. These three things are not RNG unless you want to self craft the amulet. Now you have 4 spectres.

Step 3:
Get Delve +1 body armour. You can spend big and get a 6L or try your luck linking one. You want to get an INT base, but hybrid int is OK. Never get strength or dex base because it's expensive to roll blue sockets.

Consider step 3 as a luxury. You can comfortably do everything with just 4 spectres.
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I just did three Hydra runs with EVF, SOE and BT. Gear was the same with only gem swaps.

All three spectres can easily kill a boss that stands still (eg Baran), so I chose Hydra because she moves around a lot. Secondly, the arena is also very dangerous with frostbolts flying around all the time, so you need to have clear vision.

BT:
Hydra usually runs out of the ground aoe area before it explodes. So the DPS can be very low. The ground aoe end up covering a lot of the arena because they follow Hydra. The explosions and the special beam also make the frostbolts difficult to see. The fight felt dangerous and a bit frustrating.
Time to kill: 24s.

SOE:
DPS is a little low if they only use arc. Big DPS kick if the drop a lightning orb as well. They stand very close to the boss to use arc, so frostbolts are easy to see. Visual clarity was good.
Time to kill: 22s.

EVF:
They move quickly enough to stay with Hydra when she moves. Or they will leap slam to get back to melee range. Elemental hit has a small visual effect because it's melee, so frostbolts are easy to see. The fight felt safe.
Time to kill: 20s.
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Last edited by kayella#0845 on Mar 24, 2020, 2:49:29 AM
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kayella wrote:

Step 1:
When I reach maps, I use essence of greed on a 5L. That will do for low tier reds. Upgrade to a 6L rare and use essence of greed on that as well. So basically, just run 3 spectres while you save up money for step 2.

Step 2:
Get gem level 25: +1 on boots (Bones of Ullr is a cheap way), +1 int amulet and Raise Spectre 21. These three things are not RNG unless you want to self craft the amulet. Now you have 4 spectres.

Step 3:
Get Delve +1 body armour. You can spend big and get a 6L or try your luck linking one. You want to get an INT base, but hybrid int is OK. Never get strength or dex base because it's expensive to roll blue sockets.

Consider step 3 as a luxury. You can comfortably do everything with just 4 spectres.


thanks for the fast respond, you're amazing, will put these steps in use for sure :)

Last edited by specialheph#3431 on Mar 24, 2020, 3:05:36 AM
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helll2nowhere wrote:
Switching from spiders and evf to mom build using solar guards.. Is anger aura worth it for sg? Anger, skitterbots and zealotry on helmet. Thnx.


Try Haste instead.

Just some quick numbbers on EB & MoM - SG fireball:

Zealotry only: 680k
Zealotry + Anger: 764k
Zealotry + Haste: 795k
Zealotry + Haste + Vaal Haste: 1M
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automecanic wrote:
What can you say to me about BT vs EVF in bosses? Im ok with maps right now, I have the spiders and wolfs on kill (amulet craft), and im mapping fast enough. The problem is the spectres are not as usefull as i expect. If BT are more "active" than EVF, maybe i should switch.

And something i need to ask. I had some problems with the new league mechanics, i died a lot, so i switch from mistress of sacrifice to bone barrier and i think its worth. The other gem i was thinking to change was the spirit offering on the shield, for immortal call. What do you think about this change? Thank you.


Literally what i was here to check for. I need more suitability and i fully intend to swap the damage boost of the offerings with immortal call + incr duration. I have tested the BT's, for an hour, then i recolored my chest back and got back my EVF. Yes they are slow, but they hit hard and do not die. BT's are good only if you focus heavily on minion damage and survival. I focused on survival myself and EVF's provide enough to get the boss done. In fact, opposite of what Kay says, i spawn spiders since they block the boss from moving around too much and EVF can actually apply their DPS more frequently. (PS, i spawn spiders just before the boss fight and i swap melee splash with damage on full life before i spawn them. damage boost against boss from spiders is 50% more.)

I tried bone barrier. Didn't like it. Perhaps it depends on the play style of the player. I do not like to have to worry about yet another button to spam. Took Overcharged instead of Melding. also got another endurance point from the tree left bottom. Constantly running with 4 endurance changes which will be good synergy for the Immortal Call.
Last edited by zhibg#3866 on Mar 24, 2020, 3:48:41 AM
I was looking at large cluster gems recently, and I think there's a lot of untapped potential there. Not in the notables, I'm not very impressed by anything other then renewal (maybe feasting friends in a medium gem?), but in the small passives.

Specifically, this enchantment: small passives grant 2% (or 3 if the gem has a high Ilvl and you get lucky) increased minion attack and cast speed. Depending on the build, that's worth quite a bit of increased DPS.

If you combine this with the enchantment that makes all small passives 25% more effective (or, again the high Ilvl more rare 35% version) you get each passive being worth 12.5% damage and 2.5% cast speed for the basic version. That's quite good, and depending on the build might be worth taking a 12 node gem just to use all of these.

(the version that would be a nightmare to craft would be even better - 13.5% damage and 4.05% cast speed is a lot of extra minion damage to get from one node)
Last edited by eaglewiz#0227 on Mar 24, 2020, 4:02:36 AM
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zhibg wrote:
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automecanic wrote:
What can you say to me about BT vs EVF in bosses? Im ok with maps right now, I have the spiders and wolfs on kill (amulet craft), and im mapping fast enough. The problem is the spectres are not as usefull as i expect. If BT are more "active" than EVF, maybe i should switch.

And something i need to ask. I had some problems with the new league mechanics, i died a lot, so i switch from mistress of sacrifice to bone barrier and i think its worth. The other gem i was thinking to change was the spirit offering on the shield, for immortal call. What do you think about this change? Thank you.


Literally what i was here to check for. I need more suitability and i fully intend to swap the damage boost of the offerings with immortal call + incr duration. I have tested the BT's, for an hour, then i recolored my chest back and got back my EVF. Yes they are slow, but they hit hard and do not die. BT's are good only if you focus heavily on minion damage and survival. I focused on survival myself and EVF's provide enough to get the boss done. In fact, opposite of what Kay says, i spawn spiders since they block the boss from moving around too much and EVF can actually apply their DPS more frequently. (PS, i spawn spiders just before the boss fight and i swap melee splash with damage on full life before i spawn them. damage boost against boss from spiders is 50% more.)

I tried bone barrier. Didn't like it. Perhaps it depends on the play style of the player. I do not like to have to worry about yet another button to spam. Took Overcharged instead of Melding. also got another endurance point from the tree left bottom. Constantly running with 4 endurance changes which will be good synergy for the Immortal Call.


May I ask,how you will spawn the spider if theres no minion at the boss area?

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