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kayella wrote:

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6_din_49 wrote:

I've found another clear option, which seems to work quite well on T16 maps: Dancing Duo.

Here's a video with a T16 map clear (including Delirium encounter): https://youtu.be/D-CydibSz7o

Staying alive is a bit challenging, but I'm sure will get easier once I upgrade some gear and gems. But for Sirus probably will need to use something else, as I don't have a solution for keeping the swords up between phases.

Hm, maybe I can theory craft a 'swords and spectres' build? :)

If the duo is for map clearing, then you don't need them up for bosses. Just rely on the spectres.

I'll looking into this as a build option. Thanks for reminding me about duo.

Yes, please, I feel this build option has potential :)

Edit: maybe some cold conversion build, with hatred and skitterbots supported by bonechill?

Hey, a few questions if you don't mind:

Do you plan on writing anything regarding cluster jewels and making new trees to accommodate for them?

Also I'd like to use Pledge of Hands, maybe Devouring Diadem, as well as Zombies with Esh's Scales. Do you think this setup can survive in high-end delirium content? I heard that content is really rippy so Zombies die too frequently, is that the case and this variant as a whole may be too squishy.

Do you think the Spider Version is the best version of this build for this league so far?

Also for the spider version, would Esh's Scales perform well or are EVF just better for the purpose of the build?

Well i think i'm done with the league.

It's surprisingly very borring. New atlas also very borring, slow and repepetive without any direct goal. Like sessions in Overwatch or Mobas idk. I didn't play since 3.6 and it was far from the most interesting league, but eh, idk, i'm pretty disappointed, may be it's my luck with leagues, got uber BiS gear from 3.6 though.

I killed Kosis with 0 problems (i have ~5500 hp) with Slave Drivers several times now, noone died, not even zombies. Some zombies and once - 2 spectres - died at near wave 17. Didn't die at 18-19 though. Need to just run and recall them near corners preferably. At boss they just hit him and he just hits them and you stay and drinnk tea a bit far from all the mess for ez run. Or you can run closely and dodge his attacks for more intense gameplay, also no problem.

The wave drops are very good.
The boss drop is very shit.

Didn't push my gear to uber-end game BiS this time, but it's pretty awesome in a less than week gameplay. Guess will just casually run delve/maps from time to time now.

Slave drivers seemed good.
Fire goats also good, esp with PoH (Pledge of Hands). And they can benefit more from Elder Helmet (built-in Immolate) and are tankier.

Both can be even better with Elder Helmet perfectly crafted for Immolate, Conc, Min dmg, +3 lvl of gems.

Slave drives still best spectres fo all-round content? Cuz dont like theyr clearing and think about frost\flame sentinel\\solar guards\\new spectre's etc (witch better clearing and prob less boss damage)

Made a little change since i needed more survivability. Replaced haste with Arctic armor and flesh and stone in sand stance. Pretty good combo.
Also 7000+ hp and 1330 shield keep me alive most of the time. Delirium is not balanced yet. Insta explosions gets you 1 shorted and what not. I rather have the survivability.

Running hatred, arctic armor and flesh and stone. Damage is good enough and speed of minions is also good. If i need to move the vaal fallens i just convocation on the spot where i need them. Soooo slow, but damage they output is good enough. Almost don't need third one, but i will get it.

I tried these clusters, 26 points spent:
Big (3% speed will be nice... and 35% inc small effects instead Feasting Fiends, i think).

Medium:

Small:


So... I'm not sure about clusters (at all, any in league) for spectres. There is almost nothing for them. According to calculations, the damage is about the same. Health +400.

Aura clasters (+effect wrath and etc) is shit.

Who uses which clusters?

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6_din_49 wrote:

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kayella wrote:

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6_din_49 wrote:

I've found another clear option, which seems to work quite well on T16 maps: Dancing Duo.

Here's a video with a T16 map clear (including Delirium encounter): https://youtu.be/D-CydibSz7o

Staying alive is a bit challenging, but I'm sure will get easier once I upgrade some gear and gems. But for Sirus probably will need to use something else, as I don't have a solution for keeping the swords up between phases.

Hm, maybe I can theory craft a 'swords and spectres' build? :)

If the duo is for map clearing, then you don't need them up for bosses. Just rely on the spectres.

I'll looking into this as a build option. Thanks for reminding me about duo.

Yes, please, I feel this build option has potential :)

Edit: maybe some cold conversion build, with hatred and skitterbots supported by bonechill?

I did more testing, triad grip is not an option because you need to have 4 green sockets for full cold conversion, so you kinda' need sockets on rings for the rest of stuff. In my case, I was minus two blue sockets.

A better option is grip of the council - keeps your physical damage, and adds 20% as extra cold (more multiplier). You also have +25% phys as extra cold from Hatred, and on top of that, the "18% more cold damage" from hatred. I'm also using skitterbots with bonechill, I'm not sure if that's the best use for 42% mana reservation, but on paper adds quite a bit of damage.

For the sword, since it's hard to color, I'm running withering touch in the green socket. 4R+2B or 5R+1B would be better, but it takes quite a few chromes to get a combo without green sockets.

How does the spider and spectre clear compare to Pledge of Hands with Solar Guards? And what about bossing?

I have a quick question. In the spiders and spectre version, how do you manage your mana? I mean, if you have 50% for hatred and 50% for haste, you have literally 0 mana.

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