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Enhanced Vaal Fallen:




I tested it...
And also im my opinion much better is Solar Guards.
Fallens have amazing s**t IQ (AI)
They have DMG but when i fight with Guardians--- They cant hit cuz they are so stupid :P

I hope so you know what i want to say.


I don't know if this will be good for Legion or Delve, though.[/quote]
Last edited by JustMane#2396 on Jun 13, 2019, 7:45:39 AM
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kayella wrote:

Yeah that's where Arakaali's Fang comes in. Spider for clearing maps. Spectre for chunking the boss.


Thanks for your great efforts!
Will the guide be updated for this spiders & vaal fallen spectres mix?

And may be my next question will be very stupid, but what can you say about spectres with flicker strike ability, like vendigos? Are they viable or not?
Record some Guardian fight. Maybe i do something wrong.
But they have rly rly close range :/ Its good only for shaper/elder
and no movement boss.
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ashanae wrote:
Just did 4 army battle with FEs, not great news tbh, 1/3 of loot i got with SGs, managed to kill only 3 generals.


Also with FEs my xp/h dropped from 50m to 18

so who better for clear legion FEs or SG?
Last edited by Blo0dForce#6672 on Jun 13, 2019, 8:34:56 AM
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Funkjoker wrote:
It's unbelievable how many misinformed newbies are lurking this thread.

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Camatoo wrote:
would be great if you could "save" your spectres, the same way your AG can be saved.


If it was as easily possible it'd have been implemented already.

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Camatoo wrote:

So you dont have to sacrifie a shaper set to get the highest spectre level.


There is no need to sacrifice a set in the first place. As you are apparently unaware L83 Spectres are just as viable as L84 ones and there are other ways to get to L84 areas.

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Camatoo wrote:

Glad you can run into your delve and just summon T16 level spectres again, but still, SG against bosses is not the best choice duo to their ramp up ka-me-ha-me-ha and short delay of spelltravel.


If you are unable to deal with the short amount of delay they need to start shooting, then use other spectres. Frost/Flame Sentinels fire constantly but are weaker.

To further make it clear for all of you: SGs are perfectly capable of doing any content in the game (hogm excluded), and if you aren't able to do it, the problem lies in front of your monitor.



@kayella: What's the name of the melee spectre you are testing?




i nerver said that im unable to deal with the short delay from SGs...no need for beeing cocky.
for min max the ramp up can be annoying, since they tend to run back to you, not casting whilst doing it. FE are constantly on the boss, but they are melee, so they need time to get to them. Worse even if the map is a maze with doors.

So they both have their disadvantages.

i run T15 with SG and the bosses are no issue at all. i bet the same goes for FE, but the autoaim from SG is a benefit for dangerous range mobs/bosses. If you run incursions with FE it can happen that the range mobs kill you before you can react. SG reacts the same way.
Last edited by Camatoo#7023 on Jun 13, 2019, 8:42:06 AM
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JustMane wrote:
Record some Guardian fight. Maybe i do something wrong.
But they have rly rly close range :/ Its good only for shaper/elder
and no movement boss.


Shaper Guardians:
https://youtu.be/ly6z8P8ukwA
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leanmeanexpmachine wrote:
Thanks for your great efforts!
Will the guide be updated for this spiders & vaal fallen spectres mix?

And may be my next question will be very stupid, but what can you say about spectres with flicker strike ability, like vendigos? Are they viable or not?


Yes, I'll add them to the advanced builds section because the spectre can only be found in a vaal zone in delve.

Expect it it within a day or so.

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Vendigo are pretty useless. They don't high hard enough.
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Last edited by kayella#0845 on Jun 13, 2019, 8:45:47 AM
We have charges. Wasn't there mob doing flicker and discharge?
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kayella wrote:
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JustMane wrote:
Record some Guardian fight. Maybe i do something wrong.
But they have rly rly close range :/ Its good only for shaper/elder
and no movement boss.


Shaper Guardians:
https://youtu.be/ly6z8P8ukwA


Still wait for guardian kills on rare maps.
No OP rolls
Last edited by JustMane#2396 on Jun 13, 2019, 9:07:48 AM
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Domosed wrote:
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ashanae wrote:
Just did 4 army battle with FEs, not great news tbh, 1/3 of loot i got with SGs, managed to kill only 3 generals.


Also with FEs my xp/h dropped from 50m to 18

so who better for clear legion FEs or SG?


I get back to SGs, i say Sgs better for legion clear and battles, for bosses or delve FEs still are good, but with SGs on legion i feel a lot safer, and get better clear overall.

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