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Anyone know how i would go if i wanna be a tanky summoner? Like being able to tank when you open a heist door and get blasted by everything behind it.
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MentatSyr wrote:
Hello,
I am new to game and I wanted to ask some questions. Please dont necessarily take them as criticism, merely trying to understand or improve your build for myself.

What changes would you recommend for HC players?

What kind of CWDT link would you suggest for HC players if you think it is necessary?

Why dont we use Vaal Summon Skeletons?

Do we really need minion damage for Stone golem and Zombies? I feel they almost never focus or attack bosses or other targets most of the time because of Meat Shield.

When and how should we transite from Slave Drivers to Scouts after leveling?

I didnt use the gem but Predator doesnt look so necessary to me. If we are bossing, there is only 1 target to attack already for our spectres. What am I missing?

I didnt try SRS end game, I will give them a try but feels there must be better options for that 4link slot.


I really loved your channel and guide. Would be happy to see a HC guide from you, some general advices and tweaks to builds for HC.

I'm not an expert or anything, but I'll try to answer some of your questions.

1. We still use Vaal Summon Skeletons linked with Bone offering and Desecrate on a trigger wand;

2. FAS should be used all the way till otherwise, slave drivers can be ditched completely due to its terribly low health;

3. Predator is absolutely necessary even for boss fights, as trigger the skill will significantly increase the damage output to the marked enemy;

4. For the league-starter build, SRS is just to buff up the dps, as nerfed for several leagues since 3.8. This is not the main damage source for this build;

5. CWDT could also be linked with Increased Duration, Immortal Call, and Fortify for additional defense (instead of tempest shield in this guide), but admittedly CWDT is in a bad state due to the nerf.

Hope the answers could be helpful to you.
Last edited by kx10yf#7910 on Apr 16, 2021, 1:38:33 AM
OK, this is the problem I ran into last league, and ended up with a lot of skill gems I wasn't sure whether I was supposed to use or not.

The issue is the transition from the levelling guide (5-10) to the league starter (Minion Army.)

Here are the compared skill gems. UPPER CASE is where the two builds differ.

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5-10 chest: raise spectre, spell echo, minion damage, elem focus, predator, CONTR DESTR
MA.. chest: raise spectre, spell echo, minion damage, elem focus, predator, HYPOTHERMIA/GMP

5-10 helm: srs, unleash, min dam, INFERNAL LEGION
MA.. helm: srs, unleash, min dam, MULTISTRIKE

5-10 glove: raise zombie, stone golem, meat shield, min dam
MA.. glove: -- same --

5-10 boots: skitterbots, INFERNAL LEGION, ELEM FOCUS, VITALITY
MA.. boots: skitterbots, HATRED, GENEROSITY, CONVOCATION

5-10 1H: HOLY FLAME, PHANTASM, COMBUSTION
MA.. 1H: DESECRATE, BONE OFFERING, VAAL SKELETONS (trigger a socketed spell affix needed)

5-10 shield: FLAME DASH, CONVOCATION, DESECRATE
MA.. shield: STORM BRAND, HEXTOUCH, FROSTBITE

5-10 ring: NOTHING
MA.. ring: unset, with FLAME DASH

In the ritual league I just switched from the levelling gems to the spectre build and then to SRS eventually, but that was very inefficient, as I had to recolor sockets too often and relevel up gems.

What is the correct transition? Assume I want to do league starter using the usual progression of spectres from Act 2, Act 5, and then heist (FAS.)
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Graiaule wrote:
OK, this is the problem I ran into last league, and ended up with a lot of skill gems I wasn't sure whether I was supposed to use or not.

The issue is the transition from the levelling guide (5-10) to the league starter (Minion Army.)

Here are the compared skill gems. UPPER CASE is where the two builds differ.

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5-10 chest: raise spectre, spell echo, minion damage, elem focus, predator, CONTR DESTR
MA.. chest: raise spectre, spell echo, minion damage, elem focus, predator, HYPOTHERMIA/GMP

5-10 helm: srs, unleash, min dam, INFERNAL LEGION
MA.. helm: srs, unleash, min dam, MULTISTRIKE

5-10 glove: raise zombie, stone golem, meat shield, min dam
MA.. glove: -- same --

5-10 boots: skitterbots, INFERNAL LEGION, ELEM FOCUS, VITALITY
MA.. boots: skitterbots, HATRED, GENEROSITY, CONVOCATION

5-10 1H: HOLY FLAME, PHANTASM, COMBUSTION
MA.. 1H: DESECRATE, BONE OFFERING, VAAL SKELETONS (trigger a socketed spell affix needed)

5-10 shield: FLAME DASH, CONVOCATION, DESECRATE
MA.. shield: STORM BRAND, HEXTOUCH, FROSTBITE

5-10 ring: NOTHING
MA.. ring: unset, with FLAME DASH

In the ritual league I just switched from the levelling gems to the spectre build and then to SRS eventually, but that was very inefficient, as I had to recolor sockets too often and relevel up gems.

What is the correct transition? Assume I want to do league starter using the usual progression of spectres from Act 2, Act 5, and then heist (FAS.)


I also noticed there're some discrepancies in the skill setup between the leveling guide and other builds in the later game. My suggestion is if you want to play spectres, loosely follow the gem setup in the leveling guide and bear in mind what colors of sockets you need in the endgame
Hi ! Very interested to play this build ( minions necro ), but do you think a Carrion Golem's build is better for this season ? Frost Auto-Scout's spectre still good ? Thanks
Hi, maybe somebody can provide leveling filter for this build? I will very appreciative!
What spectres to use while leveling?
Still going with slave drivers (I heard they have very low hp now?) or is it possible to use Frost Autos before hitting map?
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Outrage91 wrote:
What spectres to use while leveling?
Still going with slave drivers (I heard they have very low hp now?) or is it possible to use Frost Autos before hitting map?


I'm not sure how SD would die during leveling.
Hi
I am new and I have a noob question since I haven't not played the game for a long time.
I read you can summon Frost Autoscout in Heist contract, but I don't know how and understand.
In short, what level can I use Frost Autoscout? And how can I summon them?
Thank you
Last edited by Skykisser83#3223 on Apr 16, 2021, 7:48:34 AM
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Skykisser83 wrote:
Hi
I am new and I have a noob question since I haven't not played the game for a long time.
I read you can summon Frost Autoscout in Heist contract, but I don't know how and understand.
In short, what level can I use Frost Autoscout? And how can I summon them?
Thank you


FAS comes from tunnel and repository contract.

In Act 6, you can find 'rogue marker' and contract. just right click on the marker to go to the rogue harbour.

if you can't pick up the tunnel or repository contract, you can buy it from wakano npc!

You can see the way to summon in my video: https://youtu.be/nklMyb4qSYQ?t=191
3:10​ - How to raise spectres

Hope that helps!
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