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hidden_gobsek wrote:
What are the options to replace spell echo for SO? Empower?


Maybe Faster Attacks, but I think there is some stealth nerf as well.

secret calculation ;)

Current mechanic is trigger cast rate x dagger average damage. We use spell echo to increase trigger cast rate, but use all projectile/attack support for dagger damage.

For me that's 7.1 x 92k.

Now if I swap Spell Echo -> Faster Attacks. and only look at dagger for damage and attack rate. then I get 7.4 x 92k.

So actually more DPS. Doesn't seem right because GGG wouldn't buff SO.


Won't know exactly until we export spectre data from game.

(I'm not sure who will do spectre update for POB fork (maybe me))
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Last edited by kayella#0845 on Jan 13, 2021, 6:39:18 AM
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kayella wrote:


My plan for ascendancy was Bone Barrier, Mistress, Unnatural. I think Mistress is always useful because it gives extra block and life on block. Plague Bringer doesn't work so well because offerings eat the corpses.


Wouldn't Bone Barrier be enough for spectres though? I think we can safely take Commander of Darkness, since its not that hard to out-max our own survivability and Mistress kinda gives nothing to our brothers-in-arms?
Umm with spectres in helmet, know the focus is that and u can go with +1 chest without 6l? (to get started, helmet have prio over 6l is my real question xD)
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Pellona3 wrote:
Umm with spectres in helmet, know the focus is that and u can go with +1 chest without 6l? (to get started, helmet have prio over 6l is my real question xD)


Ghazzy theory-crafted earlier, he strongly suggest the play with ranged spectres (RS, FAS) and using 6-link skeles for dps + shielding, while having spectres in helmet. Even w/o proper skill in helmet this setup would kinda work, just because skeles dish out pretty good dps with low investment (tabula), especially with vaal proc. And RS are still good even with 4-link.
I'll be running these in my cluster setup, should be more than enough to sustain any 300% spectre.

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Ironshell_thor wrote:
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Pellona3 wrote:
Umm with spectres in helmet, know the focus is that and u can go with +1 chest without 6l? (to get started, helmet have prio over 6l is my real question xD)


Ghazzy theory-crafted earlier, he strongly suggest the play with ranged spectres (RS, FAS) and using 6-link skeles for dps + shielding, while having spectres in helmet. Even w/o proper skill in helmet this setup would kinda work, just because skeles dish out pretty good dps with low investment (tabula), especially with vaal proc. And RS are still good even with 4-link.


i prefer to go spectres only build, if i would go with 6l skeles just can go full skele build :(
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Pellona3 wrote:
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Ironshell_thor wrote:
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Pellona3 wrote:
Umm with spectres in helmet, know the focus is that and u can go with +1 chest without 6l? (to get started, helmet have prio over 6l is my real question xD)


Ghazzy theory-crafted earlier, he strongly suggest the play with ranged spectres (RS, FAS) and using 6-link skeles for dps + shielding, while having spectres in helmet. Even w/o proper skill in helmet this setup would kinda work, just because skeles dish out pretty good dps with low investment (tabula), especially with vaal proc. And RS are still good even with 4-link.


i prefer to go spectres only build, if i would go with 6l skeles just can go full skele build :(


You kinda only use 6l skeles for bosses. Map clearing is still for helmet-linked spectres. But generally I agree with you, skeles just doesn't seem right :(
He's advocating for 6L mage skeles for clear with 4L melee spectre for bossing. S&S already does that for far less investment and arguably better results.
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Last edited by Judgment1#1698 on Jan 13, 2021, 7:59:25 AM
So all the fuzz about the new patch notes and nerfs and all did put a stop to the updated leveling guide? That's sad because those first three videos are good stuff!
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anstaendig wrote:
So all the fuzz about the new patch notes and nerfs and all did put a stop to the updated leveling guide? That's sad because those first three videos are good stuff!


Act 4 is actually on youtube. I didn't use spectres, so it's not affected.

I plan to introduct spectres in Act 5, so I need to wait for league start. If I record now, the level difference will make the guide a little bit fake.
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