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Vaildez wrote:
The problem is GGG seems to keep going in the direction of middle finger to the casual players. They need to stop balancing the game around the .001% and players streaming on twitch. If they want to keep and attract new players they need to have options... Summoner builds were one of them.


If you check steam db statistics, stream version POE had 100-110k players at the start of the last 3-5 leagues dropping to 50k or so one month later.
And this number doesn't grow at all. POE became too complex for new players and this case won't change until POE 2.

Nerfing spectre builds by one thirds won't change anything for them, just some casual players will stop playing, but at this point it is probably too few casual players anyway.

I mean who wants to spend dozends of hours to spam red maps just to get to the 10 bosses fight and maybe encounter the final boss?
I think FAS would be the play for this league that thing will survive the end game content
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einzen wrote:
I think FAS would be the play for this league that thing will survive the end game content


What is FAS ?
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Sazzbot wrote:

What is FAS ?


Frost Auto Scout, from heist tunnels. Desecrate as soon as you enter.

To Kay et. al., how does one look for new spectre candidates? I can see a list at https://poedb.tw/us/mon.php but then what? How can you tell which monster attacks are more damaging? Right now there are 956 monsters on that list...
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Graiaule wrote:
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Sazzbot wrote:

What is FAS ?


Frost Auto Scout, from heist tunnels. Desecrate as soon as you enter.

To Kay et. al., how does one look for new spectre candidates? I can see a list at https://poedb.tw/us/mon.php but then what? How can you tell which monster attacks are more damaging? Right now there are 956 monsters on that list...


There's a couple of things you look for.

Damage % (Over 100 is ideal)
Life % (Over 100 is ideal)

Then look at the attacks. You're looking for attacks that are 1 second or less, and have good raw damage. Then, which ones are spell, or melee based.

Finally there are nuances in the AI you want to look at. Do they run around like chickens with their heads cut off, etc. Do the spam abilities instead of attacks.

Here is Ghazzy going over some specters, and why they are good or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W6ieDs3-cQ
Last edited by amkronos#5399 on Jan 12, 2021, 10:42:32 PM
Are baranite preachers dead now? Those were what I was hoping to run after seeing the video of them.
Last edited by FieryCabbage#4123 on Jan 12, 2021, 10:47:17 PM
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Graiaule wrote:
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Sazzbot wrote:

What is FAS ?


Frost Auto Scout, from heist tunnels. Desecrate as soon as you enter.

To Kay et. al., how does one look for new spectre candidates? I can see a list at https://poedb.tw/us/mon.php but then what? How can you tell which monster attacks are more damaging? Right now there are 956 monsters on that list...


Make sure to click on spectre profile. Many monsters actually have different stats for monsters and spectre.

You need to look at % life, % damage, attack time and skills at the bottom.

Attack skills have no damage value, but they sometimes have mod like 'deal 200% damage'

Spell skills have deal x to y damage. Look at the cast time.

*You also need to look at lua for crit chance. All minions have 5% base, but some spells have extra crit. for example baranite preacher ball lightning is 32% crit.

In 3.13, we want a spectre with around 300% life or more.

Spell spectres are easy to understand. DPS is just damage divided by cast time.

Attack spectres are % damage multiple by damage mod divide by attack time.

Cast time/attack time is also import because you want to know how soon they cast/attack again.

Some monsters have huge damage value, but the attack time is 2.5s. So they only attack every 2.5s (useless).

Also look at the skill tags like 'projectile' 'area' 'trigger'. Sometimes they have no tags.

You can also check AI script to understand how they use abilities.

My Spectre Showcase:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL231BkuOCpOWreQf8p_S3RlTvjbNNSlXR
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kayella wrote:
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Graiaule wrote:
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Sazzbot wrote:

What is FAS ?


Frost Auto Scout, from heist tunnels. Desecrate as soon as you enter.

To Kay et. al., how does one look for new spectre candidates? I can see a list at https://poedb.tw/us/mon.php but then what? How can you tell which monster attacks are more damaging? Right now there are 956 monsters on that list...


Make sure to click on spectre profile. Many monsters actually have different stats for monsters and spectre.

You need to look at % life, % damage, attack time and skills at the bottom.

Attack skills have no damage value, but they sometimes have mod like 'deal 200% damage'

Spell skills have deal x to y damage. Look at the cast time.

*You also need to look at lua for crit chance. All minions have 5% base, but some spells have extra crit. for example baranite preacher ball lightning is 32% crit.

In 3.13, we want a spectre with around 300% life or more.

Spell spectres are easy to understand. DPS is just damage divided by cast time.

Attack spectres are % damage multiple by damage mod divide by attack time.

Cast time/attack time is also import because you want to know how soon they cast/attack again.

Some monsters have huge damage value, but the attack time is 2.5s. So they only attack every 2.5s (useless).

Also look at the skill tags like 'projectile' 'area' 'trigger'. Sometimes they have no tags.

You can also check AI script to understand how they use abilities.

My Spectre Showcase:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL231BkuOCpOWreQf8p_S3RlTvjbNNSlXR


Whats your take on mage skeles? Does they seem like a decent bossing ramp-up? Cause the buff is pretty substantial?

Thanks for all you do, Kayella ;)
Kay please ignore all the trolls, no reason to avoid reddit because of a few a..holes.

Keep up the great work and thanks for most informative guide on the forums
Question: Will there be a problem because of the lower RS level when its comes to threshold? Because the map monsters are so far above the RS level?

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