[3.9] Pure Phys Skeletons & Friends Necromancer — Beginner/SSF/Budget Build

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Sepyuu wrote:

I'm new to SSF so it's a nice change to play without trading.

I've just recently hit maps, doing level 2-3 yellows but can already feel the heat and lack of dps from my skellies. I'm trying to hold out for Convoking Wands so I can try to get more minion damage but I haven't seen them drop yet (probably too low tier level with maps?).

Looking for suggestions in the mean time of how I can improve my gear early on to get myself mapping higher, thanks!

Run some Vaal side area to find a Vaal Summon Skeletons and level that up. It's a massive boost versus Metamorph encounters or just anywhere else you're in a bind. Start tossing a few Summon Skeletons and other minion gems into offhands. The goal will be to use those gems when you're ready to vendor your main ones for 20% quality. The extra Summon Skeletons to raise up are also for corruption. 20/20 (or better) Vaal Summon Skeletons would be really good.

Your Zombies are only a 3L (missing Brutality) and you aren't running Spectres for Frenzy charges. Those are more DPS options. You could also craft some minion modifiers on your gear, if you have found them.

Honestly, I don't see a ton else, but DPS is something I have never had a problem with this build. I'm sorta SSF: been selling stuff I find but I haven't bought anything for this build. Only trouble I had was when I was trying to do T13s in my mid-80s. Survivability is my biggest issue, but bosses and packs just melt.

Is Multistrike better than Ruthless for single target dps?

Here is gear btw, do you think it's ready for t16 and beyond? (jewels are 1 abyssal with taunt and 3 to dusts)

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Sepyuu wrote:

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Vendetta wrote:

I do not know how you have dps problems. I am doing red corrupted tiers without a problem. The bosses just melt... I do not know exactly how fast the content should drop I fly through maps.

I had a look at your gear and you have really nice wands! I'm still waiting for convoking wands to drop so I can begin crafting some decent stats on them.

Since I'm SSF, can't exactly go and buy some either.

I just don't think , your problem is from missing those 2 wands, I haven't calculated but my wands like give 50-60% increased dps ?

From what difference I can see, are my enchants , quality on gems, Vaal summon skeletons instead of summon skeletons ( I do not really use the vall side of the gem but meh maybe there is a difference), the spectres setup, I guess To dust jewel and so on.

SSF can be pretty hard to compare to Trade league and it seems no one else cries about the damage, at least not until the very end game.

Hiya! This build is by FAR the most fun league starter I've played. I'm currently crushing all the content (except the Sirus fight because it's designed like trash) and am wondering what I should focus on getting next. I'm using a bit of a quant setup, only to help me get money and fund the rest of the build / another character.



This is my gear, I was wondering if I should get the +1 weapons first, or if I should upgrade the chest piece, or you know... A general sense of direction of where to go!

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PsychoBamboo wrote:

Hiya! This build is by FAR the most fun league starter I've played. I'm currently crushing all the content (except the Sirus fight because it's designed like trash) and am wondering what I should focus on getting next. I'm using a bit of a quant setup, only to help me get money and fund the rest of the build / another character.

This is my gear, I was wondering if I should get the +1 weapons first, or if I should upgrade the chest piece, or you know... A general sense of direction of where to go!

I'd say the biggest increase once you're at 20/20 gems for this build for damage is crafting +2 wands. If you only hit a +1 that's fine, but +2 was a giant difference in damage for me. I still haven't bothered crafting the second one (have failed twice) because buying the fossils are a pain, but I'll probably get it this weekend, and then I feel like it's going to be more about just getting my zombies/carrion/spectres as much life and damage reduction as possible.

T16s are a joke outside of a couple specific bosses that just aoe everything down right away, so if I can get my non-skeletons to survive to buff the skeletons I think that's the play.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/dcdlxl/crafting_2_to_minion_gems_wand/ in case you aren't aware of the +2 crafting method.


Just for comparison gear wise. You can see I don't have anything all the nutty outside the +2 wand, and I got omega fucked on vaaling gems last night, so I have to redo the vast majority to get 21s. I think I'm going to swap brutality for minion life for sure on carrion, because it keeps dying the most. Only the most crazy aoe damage kills my spectres/zombies. Also leveled an animated guardian I'm going to be swapping into my boots instead of brutality to test out a bit for his survivability, then go kingmaker etc on it if it doesn't die a lot.

im new to this build but im just not getting why arent we going like a 6 slot (2hand)weapon on this build with multiple gems for zombies(example) for maxing out dmg?

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Sepyuu wrote:

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Vendetta wrote:

I do not know how you have dps problems. I am doing red corrupted tiers without a problem. The bosses just melt... I do not know exactly how fast the content should drop I fly through maps.

I had a look at your gear and you have really nice wands! I'm still waiting for convoking wands to drop so I can begin crafting some decent stats on them.

Since I'm SSF, can't exactly go and buy some either.

I would advice you to find a 2 hand. I got it just for 1 chaos, and it's been giving me 105% increased minion damage and 5% chanse to do double damage. This is awesome until you get 2 one hands.

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champ3n wrote:

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bluesylph wrote:

I'm probably going to grab some shield to deal with some of the more rippy map mods.

Spell block/maximum life or anyone has any other good ideas?

Damage really is fine, I'm sitting at around 300k per skeleton but I do feel too squishy.

Saffell's Frame or Ahn's Heritage are easy to get defensive shields

I'm looking more into a few rare versions, saw a nice one with over 100 life and some 20 odd chaos resist as well. So I'm considering that option. Lionseye is also pretty juicy however. Saffell's nice but I'm already drowning in resists.

When I have zero minions, go into a map, and spawn just skeletons, they die so fast and do no damage to monsters. What's going on? I followed the passive tree exactly and have pretty decent items with Vaal Skeletons in a 5L.

I would say this is normal, usually people have Zombies meat shields and 2 Golems, they live long, but as for Skeletons, I almost always recast them, they really don't live that long, especially if there a lot of AOE enemies.