[3.9] Pure Phys Skeletons & Friends Necromancer — Beginner/SSF/Budget Build

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iLL3aT wrote:

Hey Tallion99,

I'll answer all your questions from my opinion:

Spectres: Probably 2 Carnage Chieftains, 1 Merveil's Retainer, and 1 Arena Master for non-crit setups

Pride: Better than hatred unless you're going full cold. Pride is a 20-40% more multiplier and you get to use brutality. Hatred for hybrid builds: Hatred is about a 30% more multiplier, however, unless you path of Elemental Equilibrium, the enemy has 50 cold resist and thus hatred is half of that. The real cost would be downgrading from brutality to deathmark (-14%), and three points on the tree (-6%ish damage). Phys skeletons should stick to pride.

Melee Splash: Always use splash while mapping - it doubles your clear speed if not more. Try a hard, super juiced map with splash vs multistrike: you'll see the difference right away. I use splash for everything, and only switch to multi for Sirus (even with 80+ kills, still sometimes a BS fight, so I want it done ASAP).

Cold: Haven't got that far on the comparisons yet. Cold is a way better mapper since it freezes most mobs, and some bosses, including (with enough damage) conquerors and wave 15 Omniphobia. It also has easier access to crit builds, since aura nodes have both vengeful commander and precise commander. Phys is cheaper to build and easier to play though, and still commands very respectable numbers. I'm adding a phys variant to my guide later.

If you want to stick with phys, try one of the PoBs I've theorycrafted:

One cluster: https://pastebin.com/Hs4gMRSQ
Two clusters + one megalomaniac: https://pastebin.com/gBatmU6P

The two cluster one will cost more money, but has higher DPS. The one cluster goes to soul of steel and has access to something like a 14,000 VMS vs ~6,000 from the two cluster. Otherwise they're pretty similar.

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iLL3aT wrote:

Hey Tallion99,


If you want to stick with phys, try one of the PoBs I've theorycrafted:

One cluster: https://pastebin.com/Hs4gMRSQ
Two clusters + one megalomaniac: https://pastebin.com/gBatmU6P

The two cluster one will cost more money, but has higher DPS. The one cluster goes to soul of steel and has access to something like a 14,000 VMS vs ~6,000 from the two cluster. Otherwise they're pretty similar.

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rd6702 wrote:

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iLL3aT wrote:

Hey Tallion99,


If you want to stick with phys, try one of the PoBs I've theorycrafted:

One cluster: https://pastebin.com/Hs4gMRSQ
Two clusters + one megalomaniac: https://pastebin.com/gBatmU6P

The two cluster one will cost more money, but has higher DPS. The one cluster goes to soul of steel and has access to something like a 14,000 VMS vs ~6,000 from the two cluster. Otherwise they're pretty similar.

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iLL3aT wrote:

Make sure you have the PoB Community fork (Google it - it's down right now). The original PoB does not have support for impale calculations. If you take a look at the new one cluster PoB from the last post of mine, unchecking and re-checking rotten claws gives 11.5% more damage (my calc from the other post forgot about non-impale DPS, so it had doubled up). A 10% minion damage node adds about 1.4% damage.

When bossing, impale is always up except for the first five hits since it's target based and you have 10-12 skeletons. Other minions have a small chance to impale too, via rotten claws and dread banner. Impale should make up 60-100% of your DPS.

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rd6702 wrote:

@iLL3aT,

Ty for prompt answer. Switched to Brutta, from Ruthl, installed Xibaqua.
I'm not prepared yet to renounce at Fortress covenant. Just bcs i don't have any cluster.
Please fill the text for Xibaqua, in order to correct measure in POB (as the AG text). I think i saw something in your first POB code, but i'm not sure.
Before those changes I've made today i was sitting on 1.5 mil/skel x 12.
I wanna see the difference in numbers, bcs on maps doesn't see to much.